Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Well if I recall correctly a pretty large majority of fans approved of the move at the time. If he doesn't get hurt things could have turned out much different.

Retarded moves happen all over the league not just with the Skins.

I liked the move when we made it. And if Taylor hadn't gotten hurt, I would probably still like the trade. But he did get hurt, and while that isn't the fault of FO, we still ultimately got robbed as far as what we gave up for what we got.

I'm not crapping on our FO for this one. I'm just shaking my head while congratulating Parcells for working us over.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well it's not that other teams don't make mistakes. It's just the mistakes our FO makes are retarded as hell. The smart thing to do was not to panic and let Evans play. That 2nd round pick could've been used on a potential quality starter.....perhaps at RT. But there is nothing anyone can do about it now and it's time to turn the page on this one.

Or it's just that we are more closely attuned to these and don't give a hoot when another teams fan base is just as upset about a move or non-move their teams FO makes.

Lets face it, for good or bad, this FO is going to be aggressive in trying to make this team a contender. Sometimes that will be a great move like MW or bringing JG back, sometimes it will backfire like JT's signing. The only thing we can be sure of is that they are not going to sit on their hands and moan about the condition of the team. Hopefully, each move that backfires teaches DS a little more about football ownership, and that he will learn enough that when he gets to be Al Davis' age he's not grasping at straws.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Seriously, who cares.

I guess the Skins are the only team in the league that have moves that don't work out.

We have some of the most glaringly obvious. This one by itself, no big deal; but then we're missing the forest for the trees if that's all that we're looking at. This one did seem like the most "sure" out of our gaffs though.

[Coff]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm sure we'll be talking about this in 2019...the move backfired on us, it sucks, you move on.

Hopefully we will have the same success with the return of Dockery that many are predicting the Dolphins will have with Taylor

Yeah, but you don't just move on. First you consider your mistake so as to avoid replicating it, then you move on. I have little faith that's what's going to happen.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Coff

Yeah, but you don't just move on. First you consider your mistake so as to avoid replicating it, then you move on. I have little faith that's what's going to happen.

Well our first mistake was allowing Daniels and Buzbee to be out for the year on the first day of training camp with major injuries...but actually I was speaking more about we fans moving on.

As for the team, seriously what is there to consider here?

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm sure we'll be talking about this in 2019...the move backfired on us, it sucks, you move on.

Hopefully we will have the same success with the return of Dockery that many are predicting the Dolphins will have with Taylor

that's a really good point.

[redsk1]

We got hosed on this one. Big time. Memo to VC: Please get all the details done on a trade BEFORE you make the trade! Don't change the rules mid way thru. You cost us a 2nd rounder.

JT was never going to do his offseason workouts in DC. You would think we knew this going in.

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by redsk1

We got hosed on this one. Big time. Memo to VC: Please get all the details done on a trade BEFORE you make the trade! Don't change the rules mid way thru. You cost us a 2nd rounder.

JT was never going to do his offseason workouts in DC. You would think we knew this going in.

A most valid point.

[Riggo44]

The Dolphins sucked the year before J.T. left and with the schedule they have this year they’ll be lucky to win 8 games. Who really cares about J.T at this point? We F up getting him last year this much is obvious now. But it seemed like a good deal for both teamsat the time. J.T. just couldn’t stay on the field. I’m not really bent out of shape over the whole thing. I just wish I had so much money I could piss away 7 million!

[JoeRedskin]

Hindsight is 20/20. Last year, after we lost 2 top DE's in about 48 hours, the FO went out and got the defensive player of hte year from two years before. While some were worried that the price was a bit high, many (probably the majority) thought the FO did what they had to do and were pretty happy with the aquisition.

It didn't work out. Sh** happens.

As someone else pointed out, I wish I could say "No thanks" to 7 million dollars.

[CRedskinsRule]

I think this could be spun, from a FO apologist such as myself, as proof that our FO understands value. After all, apparently we were trying to force him to reduce his overall pay, or stretch it out in such a way that we could cut him without guaranteeing the 8M he was supposed to get, and he would not. Clearly there is no way he was worth 8M this year, so the FO forced him out rather than just paying a ridiculous amount for his services.

All in all, I am with Smoot, time to move on about this.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I think this could be spun, from a FO apologist such as myself, as proof that our FO understands value. After all, apparently we were trying to force him to reduce his overall pay, or stretch it out in such a way that we could cut him without guaranteeing the 8M he was supposed to get, and he would not. Clearly there is no way he was worth 8M this year, so the FO forced him out rather than just paying a ridiculous amount for his services.

All in all, I am with Smoot, time to move on about this.

Getting rid of an old player and making sure that he's off the books. I'd rather look at that instead of beating the dead horse in regards to the trade we made. In the end the moron is JT for giving up 7 mil.

[Trample the Elderly]

Damn Ye Cerrato! Where's my draft picks?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Getting rid of an old player and making sure that he's off the books. I'd rather look at that instead of beating the dead horse in regards to the trade we made. In the end the moron is JT for giving up 7 mil.

I think we're looking at it from the wrong way when we point out he was giving up 7 million. That was a totally non-guaranteed sum of cash, and had he gotten hurt in camp with a two month injury, we could have cut him and not payed him a single dime of his salary. This wasn't quite like Lavar giving the team money to buy his freedom. He wasn't a lock to make the roster anyway, especially if he wasn't going to show up for OTAs (and even if he did).

It was a contract extension he signed way back in 2004 (I think), and he had already earned almost the entire value of the contract with his play. If he hadn't gotten traded to us, he wouldn't have seen last year's $7.5 million either. It's clearly not money he was expecting to make, and the fact that he could have possibly made it if he busted his ass during the offseason, and we could have still denied him the money, it probably wasn't worth the money to string it out in the hopes of a big payday after Week 1.

Although he did have a roster bonus we would have paid a few days after we released him. That was a big sticking point in the negotations. It was, "hey, come to some sort of an agreement with us, or we're going to cut you and you wont see any of that". No agreement = he was cut.

[Bill B]

Hey look at it this way - when the Skins cut him it made the need to get a defensive end even more pressing and the Skins got lucky and we got Orakpo who is going to be a beast.