Zorn Needs His Own QB!

Paintrain · 08-27-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

Redskins made that mistake when they hired an offensive coach and handcuffed him to Campbell. I believe that is the reason why Spags withdrew from the job. When a coach is hired to take over a playoff team there are significant changes made but it depends on their expertise. For example, Zorn is an offensive coach so he was supposed to leave defense along (of which he has) and just concentrate on changing the offense.Which is the offense as a whole and not just the passing but the running as well. If a defensive coach is hired for a playoff team he would change the defense and not the offense. There is always a reason why a team does not make the play offense. Think about it guys I know I have a point. Normally when these new coaches are hired they tend to concentrate on their side of the ball to do what they were hired for. Other than the receivers and tight end we drafted we need someone to get them the ball in his system as well as blocking for the passer. I'm willing to let the season play out but Campbell is not going to be here next year so get over it. Also, there will be massive changes to the o-line assuming they don't improve from last year showing. I also think we will get a offensive staff makeover if Zorn is kept for another season. I like Zorn but needs to grow a pair and let the FO know what guys he needs to run his offense accordingly.

First of all, the space bar and enter keys are your friends. It would make your posts much easier to read.

Ok, now how exactly was it a mistake to hire an offensive coach to develop a young 1st round QB? There's so much wrong with your post so I will only point out one more thing, if Zorn needs to 'grow a pair and let the FO know what guys he needs to run his offense' then who exactly would you propose these people are? If he didn't think Campbell was capable and knew his job at the end of this season depended on his performance, don't you think we'd have been in on more QB talk than just Cutler?

CRedskinsRule · 08-27-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

Redskins made that mistake when they hired an offensive coach and handcuffed him to Campbell. I believe that is the reason why Spags withdrew from the job. When a coach is hired to take over a playoff team there are significant changes made but it depends on their expertise. For example, Zorn is an offensive coach so he was supposed to leave defense along (of which he has) and just concentrate on changing the offense.Which is the offense as a whole and not just the passing but the running as well. If a defensive coach is hired for a playoff team he would change the defense and not the offense. There is always a reason why a team does not make the play offense. Think about it guys I know I have a point. Normally when these new coaches are hired they tend to concentrate on their side of the ball to do what they were hired for. Other than the receivers and tight end we drafted we need someone to get them the ball in his system as well as blocking for the passer. I'm willing to let the season play out but Campbell is not going to be here next year so get over it. Also, there will be massive changes to the o-line assuming they don't improve from last year showing. I also think we will get a offensive staff makeover if Zorn is kept for another season. I like Zorn but needs to grow a pair and let the FO know what guys he needs to run his offense accordingly.

quoted cuz it is fun to read without breathing.

I got tired of the off-season, and eventually it ended, and I was happy TC/pre-season was here.

Now I am tired of the pre-season, and will be happy once the season starts. I will be happier still if we kick the Giants in the rear that first Sunday!

finally, it's funny to think that Zorn isn't getting the players he wants. No coach that has left has ever made that comment, Zorn certainly hasn't implied it, and if Zorn wanted a different QB I am pretty certain he would have the pair he needs to tell the FO that.

I'm just expressing my opinion.

SmootSmack · 08-27-2009, 04:14 PM

Norv Turner didn't bring Phillip Rivers
Mike Tomlin didn't bring Ben Roethlisberger (won a Super Bowl with him)
Tony Dungy didn't bring Peyton Manning (won a Super Bowl with him)
Ken Whisenhunt didn't bring Kurt Warner (went to a Super Bowl with him)
Lovie Smith didn't bring Rex Grossman (went to a Super Bowl with him)
Joe Gibbs didn't bring Joe Theismann (won a Super Bowl with him)

And yes, I do realize in some cases above we're talking about well establish QBs prior to the coaching change

Besides, you don't think Zorn has any say in who he needs to run his offense? You think it was Snyder or Cerrato that said "Damnit Zorn, if you don't hire Stump Mitchell, Sherman Smith, Chris Meidt, and Scott Wachenheim I'll have you out of here so fast..."

MTK · 08-27-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Norv Turner didn't bring Phillip Rivers
Mike Tomlin didn't bring Ben Roethlisberger (won a Super Bowl with him)
Tony Dungy didn't bring Peyton Manning (won a Super Bowl with him)
Ken Whisenhunt didn't bring Kurt Warner (went to a Super Bowl with him)
Lovie Smith didn't bring Rex Grossman (went to a Super Bowl with him)
Joe Gibbs didn't bring Joe Theismann (won a Super Bowl with him)

And yes, I do realize in some cases above we're talking about well establish QBs prior to the coaching change

Besides, you don't think Zorn has any say in who he needs to run his offense? You think it was Snyder or Cerrato that said "Damnit Zorn, if you don't hire Stump Mitchell, Sherman Smith, Chris Meidt, and Scott Wachenheim I'll have you out of here so fast..."

thread over.

budw38 · 08-27-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Norv Turner didn't bring Phillip Rivers
Mike Tomlin didn't bring Ben Roethlisberger (won a Super Bowl with him)
Tony Dungy didn't bring Peyton Manning (won a Super Bowl with him)
Ken Whisenhunt didn't bring Kurt Warner (went to a Super Bowl with him)
Lovie Smith didn't bring Rex Grossman (went to a Super Bowl with him)
Joe Gibbs didn't bring Joe Theismann (won a Super Bowl with him)

And yes, I do realize in some cases above we're talking about well establish QBs prior to the coaching change

Besides, you don't think Zorn has any say in who he needs to run his offense? You think it was Snyder or Cerrato that said "Damnit Zorn, if you don't hire Stump Mitchell, Sherman Smith, Chris Meidt, and Scott Wachenheim I'll have you out of here so fast..."

Stop making sense , or we will all look like idiots

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor · 08-27-2009, 04:28 PM

First of all I do use the space bar but I just had alot to say. Smootsmack you made some good points but like you said they were already well-established quarterback. I'm started to think that Zorn just took the head coaching job just to be a head coach. I just think that Zorn is trying to prove a point that he make Campbell into another Matt Hasselbeck but will sadly lose his job in the process.

One last thing Smootsmack, the bears got to the super bowl behind his defense not letting other offenses score a lot of points. (Defensive-minded coach). I'm just expressingm opinion. Zorn needs a west coast-type of a quarterback for us to actually see his offense go to work.

saden1 · 08-27-2009, 04:50 PM

I need my own football team. Anyone wanna chip in? I'm pretty sure we can buy the Detroit Lions on the cheap.

GusFrerotte · 08-27-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

I need my own football team. Anyone wanna chip in? I'm pretty sure we can buy the Detroit Lions on the cheap.

Shit no, they are still a cash cow for the Ford family.

budw38 · 08-27-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

I need my own football team. Anyone wanna chip in? I'm pretty sure we can buy the Detroit Lions on the cheap.

I will put in $ 100.00 and a bag of Pineapples !!!

sportscurmudgeon · 08-27-2009, 10:18 PM

Coaches who take over good teams usually have good QBs and keep them.

There is a new coach in Indy this year. Should he jettison the QB he inherited and get his own? If so, can the Skins please be the team that picks up that retread...

Jim Zorn took over a team that was in the playoffs and had an established starting QB. If you gave him truth serum on Day One of his "Head Coachship", I doubt he would have secretly been yearing for his own QB. Maybe a better OL and surely a better set of LBs...

DBUCHANON101 · 08-27-2009, 10:18 PM

OU most points in history playing against the 12 defenses, UF shut em down. less than half their avg.

DBUCHANON101 · 08-27-2009, 11:00 PM

Purdue, AZ St

SmootSmack · 08-28-2009, 07:32 AM

How about the defenses Flacco faced in college? If you can play, you can play.

Ruhskins · 08-28-2009, 11:50 AM

Is this thread still up?

The Goat · 08-29-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Is this thread still up?

LOL i popped in to ask the same question.

Mods?

08-27-2009, 04:14 PM	#3
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Zorn Needs His Own QB! Norv Turner didn't bring Phillip Rivers Mike Tomlin didn't bring Ben Roethlisberger (won a Super Bowl with him) Tony Dungy didn't bring Peyton Manning (won a Super Bowl with him) Ken Whisenhunt didn't bring Kurt Warner (went to a Super Bowl with him) Lovie Smith didn't bring Rex Grossman (went to a Super Bowl with him) Joe Gibbs didn't bring Joe Theismann (won a Super Bowl with him) And yes, I do realize in some cases above we're talking about well establish QBs prior to the coaching change Besides, you don't think Zorn has any say in who he needs to run his offense? You think it was Snyder or Cerrato that said "Damnit Zorn, if you don't hire Stump Mitchell, Sherman Smith, Chris Meidt, and Scott Wachenheim I'll have you out of here so fast..." __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

08-27-2009, 04:28 PM	#6
Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Queens Village, NY Age: 45 Posts: 349	Re: Zorn Needs His Own QB! First of all I do use the space bar but I just had alot to say. Smootsmack you made some good points but like you said they were already well-established quarterback. I'm started to think that Zorn just took the head coaching job just to be a head coach. I just think that Zorn is trying to prove a point that he make Campbell into another Matt Hasselbeck but will sadly lose his job in the process. One last thing Smootsmack, the bears got to the super bowl behind his defense not letting other offenses score a lot of points. (Defensive-minded coach). I'm just expressingm opinion. Zorn needs a west coast-type of a quarterback for us to actually see his offense go to work.

08-27-2009, 04:50 PM	#7
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: Zorn Needs His Own QB! I need my own football team. Anyone wanna chip in? I'm pretty sure we can buy the Detroit Lions on the cheap. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

08-27-2009, 10:18 PM	#10
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Zorn Needs His Own QB! Coaches who take over good teams usually have good QBs and keep them. There is a new coach in Indy this year. Should he jettison the QB he inherited and get his own? If so, can the Skins please be the team that picks up that retread... Jim Zorn took over a team that was in the playoffs and had an established starting QB. If you gave him truth serum on Day One of his "Head Coachship", I doubt he would have secretly been yearing for his own QB. Maybe a better OL and surely a better set of LBs... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

08-27-2009, 10:18 PM	#11
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Zorn Needs His Own QB! OU most points in history playing against the 12 defenses, UF shut em down. less than half their avg. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

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DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Zorn Needs His Own QB! Purdue, AZ St __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

08-28-2009, 07:32 AM	#13
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08-28-2009, 11:50 AM	#14
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