Anthony Montgomery Angry about demotion

30gut · 09-02-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

do you make a trade and if so for what?
I say no cause Griffin only has like a year left in him and Montgomery is the future.

I agree with you, it doesn't make sense to trade Monty.

Monty is a good young DT he would be starting material on other teams.
And unless we were given that type of value it wouldn't make sense.
By value i'm mean whatever the going rate is for starting caliber space eating 1 tech/DT.
And because of Hayneworth (and Monty's laziness??) he can't get that value because he doesn't start.

Losing Monty would also deplete the depth along the DL which is one of this teams strentghs.
Hayneworth is a beast he rarely if ever plays the entire season.
Having a solid rotation to keep him fresh is essential.
Trading Monty decreases the effectiveness of Haynesworth.

53Fan · 09-02-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 30gut

I agree with you, it doesn't make sense to trade Monty.

Monty is a good young DT he would be starting material on other teams.
And unless we were given that type of value it wouldn't make sense.
By value i'm mean whatever the going rate is for starting caliber space eating 1 tech/DT.
And because of Hayneworth (and Monty's laziness??) he can't get that value because he doesn't start.

Losing Monty would also deplete the depth along the DL which is one of this teams strentghs.
Hayneworth is a beast he rarely if ever plays the entire season.
Having a solid rotation to keep him fresh is essential.
Trading Monty decreases the effectiveness of Haynesworth.

I agree. We need a solid rotation to keep the line "fresh" and I would only trade Monty if we received the proper value in return. Monty has the physical tools to be a solid tackle who can impose his will on the o-line. The knock against him has always been he's an underachiever. He's good enough to start, but he could be so much better.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-02-2009, 01:18 PM

what about the chance that a hungry guy like dixon would then most likely be on the team? wouldn't a guy like dixon be montys replacement? so we would get a draft pick and have a formidable dt in dixon ready to step in.

Ruhskins · 09-02-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

what about the chance that a hungry guy like dixon would then most likely be on the team? wouldn't a guy like dixon be montys replacement? so we would get a draft pick and have a formidable dt in dixon ready to step in.

Good point. I wouldn't mind us trading Monty somewhere where they need some defensive help. For once I would like to see us stockpiling picks.

saden1 · 09-02-2009, 01:24 PM

I like what GB said..."you got to be stupid not to realize the guy we just paid 100 million is going to start." Montgomery has no reason to be unhappy seeing how he's a decent player at best. I'm not even sure if he's a legit starter on the Skins without Fat Albert presence.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-02-2009, 01:33 PM

Stockpiling picks is a great thing! I for one think this team is doing a nice job of building a good core group of young players/ good veterans. Another draft pick would definatley help in that area.

PennSkinsFan · 09-02-2009, 01:44 PM

My thoughts are --- compete. Win a job. Beat out Griffin. Show you can start.

hooskins · 09-02-2009, 02:04 PM

I dont think people really understand my comments.

I simply was stating what other people have said about AH. I also agree with those things as I have seen them. Also our Dline/D has been below expectations, correct?
Not just versus NE.

If I say something critical about AH doesnt mean I think he is now a dud. But at the same time, I will look for these things during the regular season and see if they have been improved upon. I don't see what the problem is with this approach.

Ruhskins · 09-02-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

I dont think people really understand my comments.

I simply was stating what other people have said about AH. I also agree with those things as I have seen them. Also our Dline/D has been below expectations, correct?
Not just versus NE.

If I say something critical about AH doesnt mean I think he is now a dud. But at the same time, I will look for these things during the regular season and see if they have been improved upon. I don't see what the problem is with this approach.

Well some folks have said that the defense has been very vanilla, so I hope that Blache has saved the best for the regular season. It would not surprised me one bit.

In regards to the NE game, Brady is a hard QB to pressure. Still, I think the team get some pressure during this game, plus we knocked him down once (not a sack, but I don't think we had many QB knock downs last season) . Also, I have noticed a lot of holding non-calls throughout the preseason (which makes sense if you are looking out for QBs), so I think we're going to see our defense knocking down QBs and causing opposing lines to draw holding penalties. And I do hope that we've seen the tip of the iceberg this preseason in regards to how disruptive our line can get.

SFREDSKIN · 09-02-2009, 09:41 PM

I would rather keep Golston and Alexander, ship the unhappy fat ass.

The Goat · 09-02-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I would rather keep Golston and Alexander, ship the unhappy fat ass.

Snap!!! No love for Monty in your corner eh. Seriously tho he's been a disappointment to be sure. Maybe he really does have the talent and ability but it's never really materialized. I don't know. Anyway I like the idea of keeping Alexander over Monty cuz he's more versatile and never ever mails it in...

dblanch66 · 09-03-2009, 10:07 AM

Maybe if Monty stomps on the face of a Cowboy during a game he'll get some consideration to start opposite fat Albert and then we'll have two Puke-oid face stompers on the D line.

hail_2_da_skins · 09-02-2009, 02:46 PM

Depth at defensive line gives the coaching staff options of rotating players in and out, keeping key players fresh for important plays. Look at how the Giants are able to rotate defensive linemen and keep pressure up front. I'm looking for the same type of effect in Washington. Keep Monty.

NYCskinfan82 · 09-02-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

Depth at defensive line gives the coaching staff options of rotating players in and out, keeping key players fresh for important plays. Look at how the Giants are able to rotate defensive linemen and keep pressure up front. I'm looking for the same type of effect in Washington. Keep Monty.

Exactly, defense wins games. Imagine just the 4 DL men getting to the QB without having to send a LB or CB.

firstdown · 09-02-2009, 03:18 PM

I guess I must have watched the first team D in the Pits game with Rose Colored Glasses because I thought we had preasure on Ben just about on every play. Now against the Pats it seemed like they did a good job of protecting Brady but he also does a good job of protecting himself by getting the ball out very quick.

09-02-2009, 01:18 PM	#3
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Anthony Montgomery Angry about demotion what about the chance that a hungry guy like dixon would then most likely be on the team? wouldn't a guy like dixon be montys replacement? so we would get a draft pick and have a formidable dt in dixon ready to step in. __________________ Just win.

09-02-2009, 01:24 PM	#5
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: Anthony Montgomery Angry about demotion I like what GB said..."you got to be stupid not to realize the guy we just paid 100 million is going to start." Montgomery has no reason to be unhappy seeing how he's a decent player at best. I'm not even sure if he's a legit starter on the Skins without Fat Albert presence. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

09-02-2009, 01:33 PM	#6
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Anthony Montgomery Angry about demotion Stockpiling picks is a great thing! I for one think this team is doing a nice job of building a good core group of young players/ good veterans. Another draft pick would definatley help in that area. __________________ Just win.

09-02-2009, 01:44 PM	#7
PennSkinsFan Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 55 Posts: 752	Re: Anthony Montgomery Angry about demotion My thoughts are --- compete. Win a job. Beat out Griffin. Show you can start. __________________ DC Pro Sports Report - Home of the Internet's Largest NFL Mock Draft Database. Best Redskins Redskins discussion, theWarpath.net

09-02-2009, 02:04 PM	#8
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	Re: Anthony Montgomery Angry about demotion I dont think people really understand my comments. I simply was stating what other people have said about AH. I also agree with those things as I have seen them. Also our Dline/D has been below expectations, correct? Not just versus NE. If I say something critical about AH doesnt mean I think he is now a dud. But at the same time, I will look for these things during the regular season and see if they have been improved upon. I don't see what the problem is with this approach. __________________ Vacancy

09-02-2009, 09:41 PM	#10
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Anthony Montgomery Angry about demotion I would rather keep Golston and Alexander, ship the unhappy fat ass. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

09-03-2009, 10:07 AM	#12
dblanch66 The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 59 Posts: 1,176	Re: Anthony Montgomery Angry about demotion Maybe if Monty stomps on the face of a Cowboy during a game he'll get some consideration to start opposite fat Albert and then we'll have two Puke-oid face stompers on the D line. __________________ The eyes are the groin of the head

09-02-2009, 02:46 PM	#13
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 70 Posts: 868	Re: Anthony Montgomery Angry about demotion Depth at defensive line gives the coaching staff options of rotating players in and out, keeping key players fresh for important plays. Look at how the Giants are able to rotate defensive linemen and keep pressure up front. I'm looking for the same type of effect in Washington. Keep Monty. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

09-02-2009, 03:18 PM	#15
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 62 Posts: 15,817	Re: Anthony Montgomery Angry about demotion I guess I must have watched the first team D in the Pits game with Rose Colored Glasses because I thought we had preasure on Ben just about on every play. Now against the Pats it seemed like they did a good job of protecting Brady but he also does a good job of protecting himself by getting the ball out very quick.

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