The Health Care Reform Address Thread

[Trample the Elderly]

The last time I was in the emergency room I was in there with a bunch of illegals. I had to pay for my visit because my full coverage insurance (Anthem) refused to pay. Those illegals paid nothing. I paid for them and me.

Now Barrack says I have to get insurance. As if my health belongs to the Federal Government. Since when do others get the right to decide for me what is best for me? The arrogance and subservience of the progressives is astonishing. You'll make great pets.

Barrack Obama is a liar and a thief. He's no different than the other liar and thief that just left. Do you hear the printing presses running? That's the sound of poverty.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

The last time I was in the emergency room I was in there with a bunch of illegals. I had to pay for my visit because my full coverage insurance (Anthem) refused to pay. Those illegals paid nothing. I paid for them and me.

Now Barrack says I have to get insurance. As if my health belongs to the Federal Government. Since when do others get the right to decide for me what is best for me? The arrogance and subservience of the progressives is astonishing. You'll make great pets.

Barrack Obama is a liar and a thief. He's no different than the other liar and thief that just left. Do you hear the printing presses running? That's the sound of poverty.

It happens your whole life. You should be used to it by now.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

The last time I was in the emergency room I was in there with a bunch of illegals. I had to pay for my visit because my full coverage insurance (Anthem) refused to pay. Those illegals paid nothing. I paid for them and me.

Now Barrack says I have to get insurance. As if my health belongs to the Federal Government. Since when do others get the right to decide for me what is best for me? The arrogance and subservience of the progressives is astonishing. You'll make great pets.

Barrack Obama is a liar and a thief. He's no different than the other liar and thief that just left. Do you hear the printing presses running? That's the sound of poverty.

I'm not gonna act like I know the first thing about health coverage, I was uninsured for about a good year until my college forced me to take insurance this year.

So this might sound like a dumb question.

But why didn't your insurance cover your visit?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm not gonna act like I know the first thing about health coverage, I was uninsured for about a good year until my college forced me to take insurance this year.

So this might sound like a dumb question.

But why didn't your insurance cover your visit?

Good question? They just told me they didn't cover emergency room visits. So I told them I'd just pay my doctor cash from now on and didn't need their service.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Good question? They just told me they didn't cover emergency room visits. So I told them I'd just pay my doctor cash from now on and didn't need their service.

I have Anthem in Virginia like yourself and they have paid for two emergency room visits and sense we are in the same state we should have the same type policy.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Good question? They just told me they didn't cover emergency room visits. So I told them I'd just pay my doctor cash from now on and didn't need their service.

And you didn't already know this? I've never heard of a plan that didn't cover emergency rooms visits in some way...as long as they were necessary.

[Schneed10]

God I really hate when you guys descend into a bipartisan back-and-forth divided right down party lines. These discussions have become such drivel.

Political talk on the Warpath was good for a while, but sadly nobody wants to analyze the issues or present ideas anymore. I don't think it's worthwhile for me to try to add to the discussion anymore.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

God I really hate when you guys descend into a bipartisan back-and-forth divided right down party lines. These discussions have become such drivel.

Political talk on the Warpath was good for a while, but sadly nobody wants to analyze the issues or present ideas anymore. I don't think it's worthwhile for me to try to add to the discussion anymore.

For what it's worth, on these health care threads I basically skip everyone's posts but yours...if that makes you feel any better

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

For what it's worth, on these health care threads I basically skip everyone's posts buts yours...if that makes you feel any better

Well that doesn't exactly make me feel better.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Well that doesn't exactly make me feel better.

Is your pain covered by your current health insurance?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Is your pain covered by your current health insurance?

I don't know if this emotional turmoil I'm experiencing is covered by Anthem. I'll check though.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

For what it's worth, on these health care threads I basically skip everyone's posts but yours...if that makes you feel any better

Well at least someone's getting something out of it. Glad to hear there's still an appetite to talk about the issues intelligently.

It's just tough to keep at it when you need to read through 3 pages of garbage just to find the one post by someone who has something meaningful to add.

Frustrated!

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Well at least someone's getting something out of it. Glad to hear there's still an appetite to talk about the issues intelligently.

It's just tough to keep at it when you need to read through 3 pages of garbage just to find the one post by someone who has something meaningful to add.

Frustrated!

I think the issue is basically this. You know how complicated this issue is. Probably as complicated as anything, and for various reasons. But, BIG BUT, everyone is involved in some way so everyone has an opinion. Most of the opinions are based on extremely limited experience in the system and a rather limited (nice way of saying it) understanding of the industry and economics in general. But they still have opinions and because they are based on "experience" and self-belief so they are ingrained opinions. On the other hand those who have payed attention and tried to "know" what they are talking about are mostly partisan hacks who believe one way because they lack the ability to adequately remove political bias from their opinions.

The ones who actually know how this bad boy works, or at least have a more in depth knowledge, are people like you, doctors and insurance companies. But no one wants to listen to you all because you all "created the mess".

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I think the issue is basically this. You know how complicated this issue is. Probably as complicated as anything, and for various reasons. But, BIG BUT, everyone is involved in some way so everyone has an opinion. Most of the opinions are based on extremely limited experience in the system and a rather limited (nice way of saying it) understanding of the industry and economics in general. But they still have opinions and because they are based on "experience" and self-belief so they are ingrained opinions. On the other hand those who have payed attention and tried to "know" what they are talking about are mostly partisan hacks who believe one way because they lack the ability to adequately remove political bias from their opinions.

The ones who actually know how this bad boy works, or at least have a more in depth knowledge, are people like you, doctors and insurance companies. But no one wants to listen to you all because you all "created the mess".

I agree that the issue's complexity really muddies the waters when it comes to productive discussion.

But still, focusing on the heckler during the speech is flat out unproductive.

But in the end you're right. It takes a more global view than the typical "I pay $500 a month for crappy coverage and that shit ain't right" viewpoint. Of course your coverage is expensive, that's why congress is trying to do something!

The questions are what are they planning to do, why, what affect will it have, and how will it help. Without trying to get at those answers, not much thoughtful discussion can take place.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

For what it's worth, on these health care threads I basically skip everyone's posts but yours...if that makes you feel any better

SS I thought you came here to see if you could just read and understand my post.