play calling???

[hail_2_da_skins]

I thought the playcalling was horrendous as well. Too predictable. They ran on first down too much and majority of the time they ran left. Mix up pass/run on first down. In the multiple wide receiver sets, they lined up Betts at wide out. What does Marko Mitchell have to do, to get into the lineup?

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

I thought the playcalling was horrendous as well. Too predictable. They ran on first down too much and majority of the time they ran left. Mix up pass/run on first down. In the multiple wide receiver sets, they lined up Betts at wide out. What does Marko Mitchell have to do, to get into the lineup?

Sorry to piggyback your post but I failed to mention something else that you reminded me of. The Giants had 3 active CB on Sunday. THREE! If that doesn't scream 4-5 WR and run those bastards all over the field then what does? That's what a coach who is dialed in and in attack mode does. See a weakness, exploit the hell out of it and don't let up. He helped a wounded team by not attacking it's vulnerability.

[Paintrain]

Interesting article on Redskins.com about the play calling For Zorn, Play Calling Remains a Balancing Act.

Weisman kinda tip toes around outright questioning Zorn's play calling on Sunday but he still asked some of the same questions we have. It's disturbing that Zorn was talking about 'I didn't want to go away from the run'. How about going towards some points? That's the stubbornness that I think is going to get him replaced.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Interesting article on Redskins.com about the play calling For Zorn, Play Calling Remains a Balancing Act.

Weisman kinda tip toes around outright questioning Zorn's play calling on Sunday but he still asked some of the same questions we have. It's disturbing that Zorn was talking about 'I didn't want to go away from the run'. How about going towards some points? That's the stubbornness that I think is going to get him replaced.

Pass your way into the lead and run to hold onto it. How hard is that?!?! Teams like the Pats, Eagles and even the Steelers will have almost as many runs as passes when the game is over, but you'll notice they tend to load up on the run in the second half after they have built up a lead. The fact that Zorn called more run plays than pass plays until the last drive is mind boggling. THEY WERE PLAYING FROM BEHIND!!!!

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Interesting article on Redskins.com about the play calling For Zorn, Play Calling Remains a Balancing Act.

Weisman kinda tip toes around outright questioning Zorn's play calling on Sunday but he still asked some of the same questions we have. It's disturbing that Zorn was talking about 'I didn't want to go away from the run'. How about going towards some points? That's the stubbornness that I think is going to get him replaced.

Good read at the link.

Good post for commentary.

[wilsowilso]

This thread is a little mental.

Dipshit is a very funny word.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

This thread is a little mental.

Dipshit is a very funny word.

As in, "I like to dipshit in my fondue"? "I work at the dip cage at the zoo and have to clean up dipshit all day"? Yeah, it is a strange word.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Lotus

As in, "I like to dipshit in my fondue"? "I work at the dip cage at the zoo and have to clean up dipshit all day"? Yeah, it is a strange word.

Also a compound word yeah i paid attention in Language Arts class

[Bucket]

CP hasn't lsot a step.. That 34 yard gain was on the short side of the field, and if any of you have ever run the ball at a college level (d2) then you would know that it's not that simple to break away ont he short side of the field.

AP is probally the only back in the NFL that would of broken that all the way, and he would of had to break the 2 DB tackles first. They were playing soft coverage, and he wasn't able to break through the 2nd level.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Bucket

CP hasn't lsot a step.. That 34 yard gain was on the short side of the field, and if any of you have ever run the ball at a college level (d2) then you would know that it's not that simple to break away ont he short side of the field.

AP is probally the only back in the NFL that would of broken that all the way, and he would of had to break the 2 DB tackles first. They were playing soft coverage, and he wasn't able to break through the 2nd level.

Ive went back and watched the replay about 5 times,and i amend my statement that 1/2 the backs would have broken it for a td,that was a ridiculous statement.However,I do think Portis has lost a step from the pounding hes taken the last few yrs,and Im still disapointed that he doesnt look like the back we thought we were getting.His longest runs have went down every yr sine he got here.That 34 yrd run was his longest since 2005,{which contradicts what Ive said about losing a step}but that hole was so big he was barely touched till he was tackled.Is it the off lines fault? I dont know.I do know that I would love to be proven wrong by Portis and you can rub it in my face all day long,cause if Im proven wrong then its helping the skins win which is what we all want
{oh,and it wasnt the short side of the field,just the opposite}

[#56fanatic]

I wanted to rip the playcalling as well. Whether we like, Zorn likes it, Danny likes it, Jason Campbell is our QB. I just dont see them allowing him to run the supposed west coast offense. They are not allowing him to really throw the ball down field very much, and seems like they are not scheming very well. Giants were going to stop the run, left a lot of one on one with the receivers, I was surprised not to see more 3 or 4 WR sets spreading out the defense and running from that and throwing from it. It just doesn't make sense. Kelly, moss, thomas, davis, were all invisible in the passing game. that is ridiculous. If your getting stuffed every time you touch the ball, why not spread em out and get into some checks at the line. Zorn just doesn't seem to have the confidense in Campbell in my opinion. And if thats the case, he may as well get him shit packed up and start heading to the door.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I wanted to rip the playcalling as well. Whether we like, Zorn likes it, Danny likes it, Jason Campbell is our QB. I just dont see them allowing him to run the supposed west coast offense. They are not allowing him to really throw the ball down field very much, and seems like they are not scheming very well. Giants were going to stop the run, left a lot of one on one with the receivers, I was surprised not to see more 3 or 4 WR sets spreading out the defense and running from that and throwing from it. It just doesn't make sense. Kelly, moss, thomas, davis, were all invisible in the passing game. that is ridiculous. If your getting stuffed every time you touch the ball, why not spread em out and get into some checks at the line. Zorn just doesn't seem to have the confidense in Campbell in my opinion. And if thats the case, he may as well get him shit packed up and start heading to the door.

I don't think it's a Campbell confidence problem. It's a Zorn stubbornness 'I want what I want the way I want it' problem.

[Paintrain]

Listening to the replay of the Zorn show on 980 (ESPN 980 Audio Vault - Play Now) earlier today, yikes.

At the 2:53 mark he said, 'We were down 17 points, I wasn't panicking, I was running our plan... I could have abandoned the run and threw the ball but I felt we were in the game, totally'. What game was he at?

At the 3:50 mark when pressed on the pass/run balance in light of the score he said, 'On the sideline I'm looking for what runs are good.. I'm trying to establish we can be a running team, I'm looking for balance.' This speaks to his stubbornness and lack of game awareness. You've got to adjust and adapt to the situation.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Listening to the replay of the Zorn show on 980 (ESPN 980 Audio Vault - Play Now) earlier today, yikes.

At the 2:53 mark he said, 'We were down 17 points, I wasn't panicking, I was running our plan... I could have abandoned the run and threw the ball but I felt we were in the game, totally'. What game was he at?

At the 3:50 mark when pressed on the pass/run balance in light of the score he said, 'On the sideline I'm looking for what runs are good.. I'm trying to establish we can be a running team, I'm looking for balance.' This speaks to his stubbornness and lack of game awareness. You've got to adjust and adapt to the situation.

I wonder if we didn't get the huge run from Portis on the first offensive play, if Zorn would have realized the run wasn't going to be there. I feel like Zorn, much like saden suggested, spent the rest of the game trying to figure out how he could get Portis into the secondary again, instead of figuring out how to get the ball in the end zone as quickly as possible.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I wonder if we didn't get the huge run from Portis on the first offensive play, if Zorn would have realized the run wasn't going to be there. I feel like Zorn, much like saden suggested, spent the rest of the game trying to figure out how he could get Portis into the secondary again, instead of figuring out how to get the ball in the end zone as quickly as possible.

Exactly! It was like finding a $20 somewhere on the street and you keep walking down that street, even if it's out of the way, hoping to find another $20.