Analisis, And Then Some!

[SkinsRock]

So now "Portis is no Priest", and he's no Barry either??? I guess he'll just have to be PORTIS.
Offiss, calm down, he was just saying he is has a similar style of running. i.e. a big power-back could have the same STYLE of running as Riggo, but that does not mean he is in the same class as Riggo. It's a style thing, not a talent thing.....although I believe Portis does have the potential to be a top RB....maybe not quite up there with Sanders, but still up there....again, I said potential.

[Hogskin]

Originally Posted by offiss

Again stop comparing Portis to Sander's, and now I will tell you why, Sander's used to make something out of nothing all the time, Portis makes nothing out of nothing all the time, blocking, or no blocking, sander's would get his yard's, probably the best ever at that, maybe W Payton would come close, we have seen what Portis does without blocking, stop listening to these pre game show's trying to market, and promote, NFL player's, remember this is an election year, I have seen Barry Sander's, and I have watched him run, Mr. Portis, you are no Barry Sander's!

Offiss - don't take it personally.

Actually, I have not seen Portis compared to Sanders - least of all on a pregame show!! I was simply comparing their STYLE (I repeated it several times hoping you would notice that). And it was based solely on my almost 60 years of watching and analyzing - not something I HEARD. Sayers also had a very similar style. There have been very few runners that had that "style" of running. It is beautiful to watch. It is a combination of great moves, general elusiveness, great vision, speed, and a huge amount of desire. I see all of that in Portis. I would have LOVED to see Barry Sanders behind Denver's line. I would have HATED to see him behind this year's Redskin line. Don't even try to compare Detroit's weak line with this line that is totally inept at run blocking. If Barry Sanders were running around behind OUR line like he did so often in Detroit. There would be no linemen running around finding guys to block. They would be watching.

And as great as Barry Sanders was, don't forget that when he quit, still in his prime, there was no screaming by the fans for his return. From what all of my customers in that area told me, it was a SHOCKING and disgraceful "Good Riddance" attitude by the fans. Portis has true potential for greatness. I hope the fans here will not turn their back on HIM.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Hogskin

Offiss - don't take it personally.

Actually, I have not seen Portis compared to Sanders - least of all on a pregame show!! I was simply comparing their STYLE (I repeated it several times hoping you would notice that). And it was based solely on my almost 60 years of watching and analyzing - not something I HEARD. Sayers also had a very similar style. There have been very few runners that had that "style" of running. It is beautiful to watch. It is a combination of great moves, general elusiveness, great vision, speed, and a huge amount of desire. I see all of that in Portis. I would have LOVED to see Barry Sanders behind Denver's line. I would have HATED to see him behind this year's Redskin line. Don't even try to compare Detroit's weak line with this line that is totally inept at run blocking. If Barry Sanders were running around behind OUR line like he did so often in Detroit. There would be no linemen running around finding guys to block. They would be watching.

And as great as Barry Sanders was, don't forget that when he quit, still in his prime, there was no screaming by the fans for his return. From what all of my customers in that area told me, it was a SHOCKING and disgraceful "Good Riddance" attitude by the fans. Portis has true potential for greatness. I hope the fans here will not turn their back on HIM.

As far as Portis breaking tackles, you could not be more wrong. HIS method of "breaking" tackles is exactly like Barry Sanders. He "breaks" them by avoiding them with jukes and spin moves.

Rest assured HG I don't take this personel, I hope you are not as well, I believe in your assesment of similar running styles, you used the word EXACTLY! Which is just plain wrong, where do you see Portis stop and start like Sander's? Where does he break any tackles, of any kind, any way? His running style is most comparible to Eric Dickerson, only he's a minuture version, if you wasnt a guy similar, and close to his size, you can go with Dorsett, [but they are different body types] but if Portis was 6'3" he would be a dead ringer for Dickerson, as for a comparison for Sander's, as far as style, I think Quintin Griffen is more Sander's like than Portis.

And as great as Barry Sanders was, don't forget that when he quit, still in his prime, there was no screaming by the fans for his return. From what all of my customers in that area told me, it was a SHOCKING and disgraceful "Good Riddance" attitude by the fans. Portis has true potential for greatness. I hope the fans here will not turn their back on HIM.

I hope you don't think Denver is throwing a parade for Portis when he eventually go's back there to play?

[Hogskin]

Originally Posted by offiss

Rest assured HG I don't take this personel, I hope you are not as well, I believe in your assesment of similar running styles, you used the word EXACTLY! Which is just plain wrong, where do you see Portis stop and start like Sander's? Where does he break any tackles, of any kind, any way? His running style is most comparible to Eric Dickerson, only he's a minuture version, if you wasnt a guy similar, and close to his size, you can go with Dorsett, [but they are different body types] but if Portis was 6'3" he would be a dead ringer for Dickerson, as for a comparison for Sander's, as far as style, I think Quintin Griffen is more Sander's like than Portis.




I hope you don't think Denver is throwing a parade for Portis when he eventually go's back there to play?

I think I repeatedly used "similar" in comparing their style. The only time I said "exactly" was when I was describing his method of breaking tackles - and I stand by that. Neither used power to break tackles, they both used elusiveness, period. (and that was the simple point that got this started, BTW).

As far as the FANS in Denver go, I read the Denver Post sports section every day for a couple weeks after the trade. Most of what I read was that there was outrage being expressed by many fans, and a number of the players. He was a popular guy there. And there has been more of the same sentiment there over the last couple weeks. It remains to be seen if Droughns will do as well against other defenses as he did yesterday. If not, you will hear a lot more from up on the big hill about Portis being traded. He was much appreciated there. Personally, I feel Shanahan set himself up for a lot of criticism when he traded Portis immediately after his OL genius, Alex Gibbs, leaves town. If the line can not deliver as in the past, it will "look" like he is at fault for getting rid of Portis.

If that happens, yes, I ABSOLUTELY think there would be a parade for Portis' return. But that ain't gonna happen...

P.S. You complain about Portis compared to Sanders and you compare Griffin????? LOL - He has ALREADY lost his job. He can't hold Portis' jock strap.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Hogskin

I think I repeatedly used "similar" in comparing their style. The only time I said "exactly" was when I was describing his method of breaking tackles - and I stand by that. Neither used power to break tackles, they both used elusiveness, period. (and that was the simple point that got this started, BTW).

As far as the FANS in Denver go, I read the Denver Post sports section every day for a couple weeks after the trade. Most of what I read was that there was outrage being expressed by many fans, and a number of the players. He was a popular guy there. And there has been more of the same sentiment there over the last couple weeks. It remains to be seen if Droughns will do as well against other defenses as he did yesterday. If not, you will hear a lot more from up on the big hill about Portis being traded. He was much appreciated there. Personally, I feel Shanahan set himself up for a lot of criticism when he traded Portis immediately after his OL genius, Alex Gibbs, leaves town. If the line can not deliver as in the past, it will "look" like he is at fault for getting rid of Portis.

If that happens, yes, I ABSOLUTELY think there would be a parade for Portis' return. But that ain't gonna happen...

P.S. You complain about Portis compared to Sanders and you compare Griffin????? LOL - He has ALREADY lost his job. He can't hold Portis' jock strap.

Don't know where your going with that, your whole stance on the subject was similar running styles, not production, Griffen look's more like sander's in his running style than Portis, as far as being able to stop and go, you need not tell me he's no sander's, he's not even a Portis, and that's the point, comparing Portis, to Sander's, in any way, is just ridiculous, you may want to watch some film of both very close, you will see nothing out of Portis that will resemble Sander's, the fact is, you will find nothing that resembles Sander's period, in the history of the NFL, he was that unique.