DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy

Longtimefan · 10-14-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

When he can tackle an ancient QB who can't run in the open field, then let's talk.

Leave it to Riggins to set the record straight.

CrazyCanuck · 10-14-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

When he can tackle an ancient QB who can't run in the open field, then let's talk.

Amen to that. And where does Hall think the cap space would have come from to sign all these quality O-linemen? Right out of his contract that's where. Besides this whole point is moot anyways. We lost Samuels so now we're a sh*t team?? LOL please...

Personally I'm tired of this whole bunch. The only guy I like right now is Zorn. I don't think he's ready to be an NFL coach, but at least:

1. He's sincerely trying his best.
2. He's not blaming anyone but himself.

The rest of these clowns should take example.

Remember this is the same coach who knocked off Philly and Dallas back-to-back on the road last year. I've watched this team for 30 years and those were two of the most impressive regular season wins I can remember.

This whole thing started to unravel midway through last year when Portis threw Zorn under the bus, and the rest of the team followed suit with their play. Losing that game in Cincy with a playoff spot on the line was unacceptable. Where's the pride??

The boys from the "U" and the rest of them are such big stars but they haven't won squat here. I know, Snyder's a bad owner, Gibbs was too old for today's game, Zorn is in over his head, blah blah blah... the excuses are getting old. At some point the players gotta take some responsibility. But not this group. Just keep yapping away and cashing the cheques.

2009 is a lost cause, so is 2010. Time to blow it up. Keep the unmoveable contracts and the promising kids, and jettison the rest. The only one I'll feel bad for is Zorn.

RobH4413 · 10-14-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Amen to that. And where does Hall think the cap space would have come from to sign all these quality O-linemen? Right out of his contract that's where. Besides this whole point is moot anyways. We lost Samuels so now we're a sh*t team?? LOL please...

Personally I'm tired of this whole bunch. The only guy I like right now is Zorn. I don't think he's ready to be an NFL coach, but at least:

1. He's sincerely trying his best.
2. He's not blaming anyone but himself.

The rest of these clowns should take example.

Remember this is the same coach who knocked off Philly and Dallas back-to-back on the road last year. I've watched this team for 30 years and those were two of the most impressive regular season wins I can remember.

This whole thing started to unravel midway through last year when Portis threw Zorn under the bus, and the rest of the team followed suit with their play. Losing that game in Cincy with a playoff spot on the line was unacceptable. Where's the pride??

The boys from the "U" and the rest of them are such big stars but they haven't won squat here. I know, Snyder's a bad owner, Gibbs was too old for today's game, Zorn is in over his head, blah blah blah... the excuses are getting old. At some point the players gotta take some responsibility. But not this group. Just keep yapping away and cashing the cheques.

2009 is a lost cause, so is 2010. Keep the unmoveable contracts and the promising kids, and jettison the rest. Time to blow it up. The only one I'll feel bad about is Zorn.

Great post. I'm ready for a fire sale. Lets suck for a few years and build through the draft finally... please. I know it's redundant. But its time.

SmootSmack · 10-14-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Amen to that. And where does Hall think the cap space would have come from to sign all these quality O-linemen? Right out of his contract that's where. Besides this whole point is moot anyways. We lost Samuels so now we're a sh*t team?? LOL please...

Personally I'm tired of this whole bunch. The only guy I like right now is Zorn. I don't think he's ready to be an NFL coach, but at least:

1. He's sincerely trying his best.
2. He's not blaming anyone but himself.

The rest of these clowns should take example.

Remember this is the same coach who knocked off Philly and Dallas back-to-back on the road last year. I've watched this team for 30 years and those were two of the most impressive regular season wins I can remember.

This whole thing started to unravel midway through last year when Portis threw Zorn under the bus, and the rest of the team followed suit with their play. Losing that game in Cincy with a playoff spot on the line was unacceptable. Where's the pride??

The boys from the "U" and the rest of them are such big stars but they haven't won squat here. I know, Snyder's a bad owner, Gibbs was too old for today's game, Zorn is in over his head, blah blah blah... the excuses are getting old. At some point the players gotta take some responsibility. But not this group. Just keep yapping away and cashing the cheques.

2009 is a lost cause, so is 2010. Time to blow it up. Keep the unmoveable contracts and the promising kids, and jettison the rest. The only one I'll feel bad for is Zorn.

The cheques. A nice reminder that you're Canadian

Anyhow, I feel bad for Zorn to an extent. He may have taken on too much. And I understand that he wasn't hired to be the head coach initially but when he became the head coach maybe he could have/should have ceded other roles he had. Also, Zorn has often blamed the execution of the players rather than the scheme. Such the Portis QB Option pass against the Rams. So I guess my point is none should really be absolved of blame in any of this...except the Red Snapper

Oh and thanks for the plug. But I won't settle for less than Executive Vice President

CrazyCanuck · 10-15-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Also, Zorn has often blamed the execution of the players rather than the scheme. Such the Portis QB Option pass against the Rams. So I guess my point is none should really be absolved of blame in any of this...except the Red Snapper

Oh and thanks for the plug. But I won't settle for less than Executive Vice President

Fair enough, Zorn should not be absolved of all blame either. I'll get on the Red Snapper bandwagon with you...

Here's my new plan:

Team President - Mattyk
GM and VP of Football Operations - Smootsmack
Head of Scouting - Joe Crisp
Cap Guru - Schneed10
Head Coach - Red Snapper (he can continue to be the LS)

I will serve as consultant and extra set of eyes... I swear this group wouldn't do any worse than the current bunch...

Ruhskins · 10-15-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Fair enough, Zorn should not be absolved of all blame either. I'll get on the Red Snapper bandwagon with you...

Here's my new plan:

Team President - Mattyk
GM and VP of Football Operations - Smootsmack
Head of Scouting - Joe Crisp
Cap Guru - Schneed10
Head Coach - Red Snapper (he can continue to be the LS)

I will serve as consultant and extra set of eyes... I swear this group wouldn't do any worse than the current bunch...

Sweet, since I drink the Kool Aid a lot, I can replace Larry Michaels. Oh and the team haters can host the Sports Reporters. LOL.

Monkeydad · 10-15-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Fair enough, Zorn should not be absolved of all blame either. I'll get on the Red Snapper bandwagon with you...

Here's my new plan:

Team President - Mattyk
GM and VP of Football Operations - Smootsmack
Head of Scouting - Joe Crisp
Cap Guru - Schneed10
Head Coach - Red Snapper (he can continue to be the LS)

I will serve as consultant and extra set of eyes... I swear this group wouldn't do any worse than the current bunch...

Team President can't be someone who once said he doesn't hate the Cowboys.

SmootSmack · 10-15-2009, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Fair enough, Zorn should not be absolved of all blame either. I'll get on the Red Snapper bandwagon with you...

Here's my new plan:

Team President - Mattyk
GM and VP of Football Operations - Smootsmack
Head of Scouting - Joe Crisp
Cap Guru - Schneed10
Head Coach - Red Snapper (he can continue to be the LS)

I will serve as consultant and extra set of eyes... I swear this group wouldn't do any worse than the current bunch...

LOL. I'm a bit concerned about our scouting department now...we won't see them for two years

SFREDSKIN · 10-14-2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Amen to that. And where does Hall think the cap space would have come from to sign all these quality O-linemen? Right out of his contract that's where. Besides this whole point is moot anyways. We lost Samuels so now we're a sh*t team?? LOL please...

Personally I'm tired of this whole bunch. The only guy I like right now is Zorn. I don't think he's ready to be an NFL coach, but at least:

1. He's sincerely trying his best.
2. He's not blaming anyone but himself.

The rest of these clowns should take example.

Remember this is the same coach who knocked off Philly and Dallas back-to-back on the road last year. I've watched this team for 30 years and those were two of the most impressive regular season wins I can remember.

This whole thing started to unravel midway through last year when Portis threw Zorn under the bus, and the rest of the team followed suit with their play. Losing that game in Cincy with a playoff spot on the line was unacceptable. Where's the pride??

The boys from the "U" and the rest of them are such big stars but they haven't won squat here. I know, Snyder's a bad owner, Gibbs was too old for today's game, Zorn is in over his head, blah blah blah... the excuses are getting old. At some point the players gotta take some responsibility. But not this group. Just keep yapping away and cashing the cheques.

2009 is a lost cause, so is 2010. Time to blow it up. Keep the unmoveable contracts and the promising kids, and jettison the rest. The only one I'll feel bad for is Zorn.

Beautiful post!!! We should avoid players from the "U" like the plague.

Ruhskins · 10-14-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Beautiful post!!! We should avoid players from the "U" like the plague.

So no Sean Taylor? He was from the U.

SFREDSKIN · 10-14-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So no Sean Taylor? He was from the U.

He's no longer alive, that's irrelevant.

tryfuhl · 10-14-2009, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Amen to that. And where does Hall think the cap space would have come from to sign all these quality O-linemen? Right out of his contract that's where. Besides this whole point is moot anyways. We lost Samuels so now we're a sh*t team?? LOL please...

Personally I'm tired of this whole bunch. The only guy I like right now is Zorn. I don't think he's ready to be an NFL coach, but at least:

1. He's sincerely trying his best.
2. He's not blaming anyone but himself.

The rest of these clowns should take example.

Remember this is the same coach who knocked off Philly and Dallas back-to-back on the road last year. I've watched this team for 30 years and those were two of the most impressive regular season wins I can remember.

This whole thing started to unravel midway through last year when Portis threw Zorn under the bus, and the rest of the team followed suit with their play. Losing that game in Cincy with a playoff spot on the line was unacceptable. Where's the pride??

The boys from the "U" and the rest of them are such big stars but they haven't won squat here. I know, Snyder's a bad owner, Gibbs was too old for today's game, Zorn is in over his head, blah blah blah... the excuses are getting old. At some point the players gotta take some responsibility. But not this group. Just keep yapping away and cashing the cheques.

2009 is a lost cause, so is 2010. Time to blow it up. Keep the unmoveable contracts and the promising kids, and jettison the rest. The only one I'll feel bad for is Zorn.

he blames execution instead of his playcalls/gameplan 1000:1

not sure what you're watching

hagams · 10-14-2009, 05:10 PM

I think that everyone (Fans and players) are trying to get some attention on the FO. Maybe we can't be heard, but if the players can't be heard we are really in trouble. We don't know what goes throughout the week. Maybe the players are trying to get their points across, and are getting nowhere. If that's the case, the whole team should go on record addressing the lack talent being brought in. Nobody wants them to lose, but they should be able to put their input in.

44Deezel · 10-14-2009, 07:07 PM

The stupid move was to pay Portis as much as they did, instead of taking that money and investing it in the O-line. Name a Super Bowl winner the last 10 years that had a high-priced RB on their roster. Why they don't try to models themselves after organizations like the Steelers, Pats or even the Redskins of old is beyond comprehension. Strong O-Line, Good to great Defense, and great QB. There are exceptions, but that's the formula that works most often.

djnemo65 · 10-14-2009, 07:21 PM

I don't know, something just doesn't seem right about a player 5 games into a bloated contract that he couldn't have gotten anywhere else criticizing the front office. If the front office wasn't dysfunctional he would be making half as much money right now. Why do you think we lacked salary cap money to pursue more OL free agents?

10-14-2009, 05:10 PM	#13
hagams Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Beaufort SC Age: 46 Posts: 933	Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy I think that everyone (Fans and players) are trying to get some attention on the FO. Maybe we can't be heard, but if the players can't be heard we are really in trouble. We don't know what goes throughout the week. Maybe the players are trying to get their points across, and are getting nowhere. If that's the case, the whole team should go on record addressing the lack talent being brought in. Nobody wants them to lose, but they should be able to put their input in. __________________ We are always superbowl contenders in March!!! HTTR!!!!!!!!

10-14-2009, 07:07 PM	#14
44Deezel The Starter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Davidsonville Posts: 1,783	Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy The stupid move was to pay Portis as much as they did, instead of taking that money and investing it in the O-line. Name a Super Bowl winner the last 10 years that had a high-priced RB on their roster. Why they don't try to models themselves after organizations like the Steelers, Pats or even the Redskins of old is beyond comprehension. Strong O-Line, Good to great Defense, and great QB. There are exceptions, but that's the formula that works most often. __________________ I am a system poster.

10-14-2009, 07:21 PM	#15
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy I don't know, something just doesn't seem right about a player 5 games into a bloated contract that he couldn't have gotten anywhere else criticizing the front office. If the front office wasn't dysfunctional he would be making half as much money right now. Why do you think we lacked salary cap money to pursue more OL free agents? Last edited by djnemo65; 10-14-2009 at 07:42 PM.

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