Sherman Lewis, what was his effect

[Eknox]

I thought play calling was way better than Zorn's play calling, if you don't see a difference you weren't watching the game. We passed the ball inside the 20 and we scored, and would have scored more if Rabach doesn't goof off the ball. The offense actually had some flow and rythm to it, what stopped it was J Campbell throwing late OFTEN and fumbling the ball (ARE also) had JC manned up we would have won. I sy kudos to Sherm Lewis he called a very imaginative game that wasn't predictable like when Zorn was calling plays..

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Play calling wasn't an issue and honestly I didn't see where it impacted things positively or negatively. The main issue is, and has been all year with the execution side of things.

You can call plays directly from a Bill Walsh playbook but it's not going to matter if the players don't go out and do their jobs.

Yup. The line is terrible, and when on occasion they do give JC enough time to look downfield, our god awful receivers don't get open. Maybe that's a Stan Hixon issue? Seems to me there is plenty of physical talent amongst the receivers, but for whatever reason they aren't open. Moss dropping TDs that hit him in the hands doesn't help things either.

I would say that regardless of how the rest of the season plays out, Stan Hixon is among the many who need to be shown the door.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Play calling wasn't an issue and honestly I didn't see where it impacted things positively or negatively. The main issue is, and has been all year with the execution side of things.

You can call plays directly from a Bill Walsh playbook but it's not going to matter if the players don't go out and do their jobs.

Amen to that... That isn't Jerry Rice and John Taylor out there at WR. That isn't Dwight Clark at TE. That isn't an OL made up of 5 competent NFL players. And that is not Joe Montana/Steve Young under center. As Gruden and Jaws kept pointing out last night, it's the execution - - stupid.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Yup. The line is terrible, and when on occasion they do give JC enough time to look downfield, our god awful receivers don't get open. Maybe that's a Stan Hixon issue? Seems to me there is plenty of physical talent amongst the receivers, but for whatever reason they aren't open. Moss dropping TDs that hit him in the hands doesn't help things either.

I would say that regardless of how the rest of the season plays out, Stan Hixon is among the many who need to be shown the door.

I don't think it's a Hixon issue at all. I think it's a JC issue when it comes to trying to get the ball down the field to the receivers.

The few rare instances where he does have time, he either rushes through his reads or he doesn't attempt a pass unless a guy is wide freaking open. Who many times do we see him pull the ball back down and dump it off? The MNF crew noted this several times.

[Hog1]

In two weeks (of prep time) he equaled our best offensive production against the second best team we have played this year. I consider that pretty good? It will be interesting to see what happens over the bye

[SantanaTreeMoss]

The execution was horrible, just goes to show what the real problem is.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't think it's a Hixon issue at all. I think it's a JC issue when it comes to trying to get the ball down the field to the receivers.

The few rare instances where he does have time, he either rushes through his reads or he doesn't attempt a pass unless a guy is wide freaking open. Who many times do we see him pull the ball back down and dump it off? The MNF crew noted this several some imes.

JC....obviously cannot operate in this environment. He needs more time, security, etc. Some other QB's can deal with it. However, who is that going to be....that is available? That having been said, if we do the right thing and rebuild the line, that may go a long way to making JC...serviceable. At least until some better QB options become available

[SantanaTreeMoss]

Originally Posted by Hog1

JC....obviously cannot operate in this environment. He needs more time, security, etc. Some other QB's can deal with it. However, who is that going to be....that is available? That having been said, if we do the right thing and rebuild the line, that may go a long way to making JC...serviceable. At least until some better QB options become available

Agreed, JC does not look comfortable at all. And you could really see this in the first half, he has so much going on around him and I'm sure its impacting his playing. He really has to just calm down and make better decisions.

[skinsguy]

Let's face it. It's the NFL. Your offensive line is not always going to make it so that you can drop back and wait for a receiver to be wide open before you throw the ball. You are going to get rushed and you're going to get flushed out of the pocket. A good QB is going to know how to operate under pressure and make the plays. JC wasn't making the plays last night. For Pete's sake, he didn't even see a WIDE OPEN Santana Moss.

[PortimusPrime]

I agree that the O-Line has not caused all of our problems on offense. There are a lot of things that need to be fixed, QB being one of them.

I've had mixed feelings about rather I think we should draft another rookie QB or pick up a FA next year. I do agree that the focus of the draft should be O-Line though.

There should be some mediocre QBs on the FA list next year as either Tavarias Jackson or Sage Rosenfields should be released from the Vikings next year. Jeff Garcia is still available and Quinn or Anderson will be available for trade. Any of these guys are good picks to take over at QB till we can find a franchise QB to take over our offense.

[12thMan]

Sherm definitely made Davis and Thomas magically appear. I think his impact will get better by the week, especially now that he has a full bye week to get comfortable with things.

This guy - Sherman Lewis -- could very well end up staying with the team long term.

[PortimusPrime]

When are you guys going to realize that the play calling does not matter unless we have people who can execute the plays.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't think it's a Hixon issue at all. I think it's a JC issue when it comes to trying to get the ball down the field to the receivers.

The few rare instances where he does have time, he either rushes through his reads or he doesn't attempt a pass unless a guy is wide freaking open. Who many times do we see him pull the ball back down and dump it off? The MNF crew noted this several times.

Jaws and Gruden were fantastic at breaking down the game. The new MNF crew is my favorite bunch of commentators right now. The level of knowledge that Jaws and Gruden bring to the table is unsurpassed. It is a real shame that Gruden will probably only stick around for one season. They are top notch.

Like Jaws said repeatedly, you have to be willing to make throws into tight windows in the NFL. Guys are not going to be running open very often. Now the Redskins receivers do struggle to win one-on-one match-ups, but Campbell also does not allow the guys an opportunity to succeed. Clearly the offensive line is a serious problem, but the MNF guys did a very good job of highlighting the many instances where Campbell left plays on the field. That missed double move to Moss was heartbreaking, but Jaws saw it right away and the production crew went directly to the wide shot. That is Emmy worthy stuff right there. I have bashed the ESPN MNF crew in the past, but they are really on point this year.

Originally Posted by 30gut

I haven't gone back and re-watching the game but this is what i saw:

o We moved the ball
o He got Jason on the move with roll-outs
o There was more motion and shifting
o There were more formations
**Lol, Someone should have told Lewis that Fred Davis is a suspect blocker

The Most meaningful difference?
o **We threw the ball in the RZ inside the 10 yardline and we scored!!**

I noticed the increased motion as well. That is something that Zorn never seemed to grasp for whatever reason. He was completely unable to determine match-ups through pre-snap formation shifts and motions.

I also noticed that there were a lot more passes on 1st down (aka the best down to pass in the NFL). Maybe someone can quantify that, but anecdotally it seemed significant.

So basically what you saw was someone calling plays who actually has a grasp of how to call an NFL offense. Who understands that you need to dictate matchups and that you have to break tendencies in order to be successful. To my eye it was the best playcalling we have seen all season. I did not expect much, but I was impressed. Obviously the execution was piss poor. I think it basically highlighted how unprepared Zorn was to call plays in the NFL.

[SantanaTreeMoss]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Sherm definitely made Davis and Thomas magically appear. I think his impact will get better by the week, especially now that he has a full bye week to get comfortable with things.

This guy - Sherman Lewis -- could very well end up staying with the team long term.

Hahaha, no he won't.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SantanaTreeMoss

Hahaha, no he won't.

Don't fool yourself. This guy get's the offense churning, Danny will think long and hard about let him go back to bingo. Especially if no one else will come here to coach.