Accountability

calia · 12-08-2009, 10:12 AM

Maybe I am showing my age, but can't we do without the showboating entirely? Riggins was awesome -- when he scored a TD (which he did often), he would jog over and hand the ball to the ref. When Darrell Green intercepted a pass, he would just jog over to the sidelines and let the offense take over. Art Monk was not known for his endzone celebrations. I miss those kind of players.

Separately, and back to the subject of accountability, I would like Landry to simply say, "You're right. I bit on a few plays, and they cashed in, and I let down my teammates. I will work even harder to make sure it doesn't happen again -- my team and the fans deserve it." For all the Suisam bashing going on, at least he stepped up and admitted he blew it. And Ethan Albright took the blame for a high snap (even though it wasn't). It is a mark or professionalism to admit to a mistake -- but perhaps as importantly, if players like Landry cannot even admit to having made them, how can we reasonably expect for them to learn from them?

Longtimefan · 12-08-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by calia

Maybe I am showing my age, but can't we do without the showboating entirely? Riggins was awesome -- when he scored a TD (which he did often), he would jog over and hand the ball to the ref. When Darrell Green intercepted a pass, he would just jog over to the sidelines and let the offense take over. Art Monk was not known for his endzone celebrations. I miss those kind of players.

Separately, and back to the subject of accountability, I would like Landry to simply say, "You're right. I bit on a few plays, and they cashed in, and I let down my teammates. I will work even harder to make sure it doesn't happen again -- my team and the fans deserve it." For all the Suisam bashing going on, at least he stepped up and admitted he blew it. And Ethan Albright took the blame for a high snap (even though it wasn't). It is a mark or professionalism to admit to a mistake -- but perhaps as importantly, if players like Landry cannot even admit to having made them, how can we reasonably expect for them to learn from them?

Or correct them. I agree.

CRedskinsRule · 12-08-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by calia

Maybe I am showing my age, but can't we do without the showboating entirely? Riggins was awesome -- when he scored a TD (which he did often), he would jog over and hand the ball to the ref. When Darrell Green intercepted a pass, he would just jog over to the sidelines and let the offense take over. Art Monk was not known for his endzone celebrations. I miss those kind of players.

Separately, and back to the subject of accountability, I would like Landry to simply say, "You're right. I bit on a few plays, and they cashed in, and I let down my teammates. I will work even harder to make sure it doesn't happen again -- my team and the fans deserve it." For all the Suisam bashing going on, at least he stepped up and admitted he blew it. And Ethan Albright took the blame for a high snap (even though it wasn't). It is a mark or professionalism to admit to a mistake -- but perhaps as importantly, if players like Landry cannot even admit to having made them, how can we reasonably expect for them to learn from them?

What about the Fun Bunch???

I miss the demonstrations. This game is about being excited, yeah, if you are 3-9 and you make a tackle after a 7 yard run that is stupid, but if you make a sack, a solid hit, whatever, get pumped, get everyone around you pumped.

Monkeydad · 12-08-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Maybe we should also pull a lineman out of a game after they allow a D lineman into the back field, pull our WR's when they drop a ball, bench JC when he throws a bad pass, etc... etc....

Ummm....NO.

Our starting linemen are already 3rd-stringer quality...pulling them will only get our QB killed.

Putting Collins in after Campbell throws a bad pass? That just tells the defense we WON'T be going deep.

Good intentions, bad idea though!

SmootSmack · 12-08-2009, 10:18 AM

This is what happens when the Redskins draft a guy named Landry

tryfuhl · 12-08-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

This is what happens when the Redskins draft a guy named Landry

hahahaha

redsk1 · 12-08-2009, 10:34 AM

There's not much accountability b/c our coach doesn't have much authority to do anything. Right? He doesn't have control of his team. It's not his team, it's VC's and DS's. They let Zorn know that he's not going to be calling plays. Sure, Zorn controls some things but it's really not his team. Exhibit A, playcalling.

I think by cutting the kicker you send a message. A message that says, we're not going to accept losing. It's a harsh message but it's the NFL and it's not always fair. Do you think Jimmie Johnson, Belicheck, Parcells, Lombardi, etc would keep Suisham after costing the team 2 games in 3 weeks? They probably wouldn't. Someone's got to pay, and unfortunately it's the kicker in most cases, whether it's fair or not.

freddyg12 · 12-08-2009, 11:09 AM

One of Landry's biggest plays sunday actually is a good example of how unsound his play often is. On that sack of Brees, he never even got his hands on him from what I could see. It was another hit w/no rap. Brees almost stayed on his feet.

He had a big game yesterday save for a few plays. But when you're a free saftey you can't gamble when your team is up 7 & there's less than 2:00. I've thought that Landry has often been criticized unfairly this year for not "making plays" yet when he was out of the picture (literally if you're watching on tv) he was probably doing a great job. Now it seems the last 5 weeks or so he's getting out of position and/or taking chances to the detriment of the team. He's playing like Lavar at free safety!!!

something seems amiss a la 2006, when the secondary was getting beat at least once a week by a deep ball. That year the T. Friend article quoted an anonymous source about how the safety & secondary coaches instructed players differently. If what we're seeing lately isn't a coaching/scheme issue, it's at least a coaching/discipline issue.

tryfuhl · 12-08-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

One of Landry's biggest plays sunday actually is a good example of how unsound his play often is. On that sack of Brees, he never even got his hands on him from what I could see. It was another hit w/no rap. Brees almost stayed on his feet.
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At first I thought that it was a very near whiff as well. Once they showed the replay that was pretty much right behind his angle, you see that he had to avoid some linemen to get through there and that's what caused the strangle approach to Brees.

12-08-2009, 10:12 AM	#1
calia Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 58 Posts: 4,016	Re: Accountability Maybe I am showing my age, but can't we do without the showboating entirely? Riggins was awesome -- when he scored a TD (which he did often), he would jog over and hand the ball to the ref. When Darrell Green intercepted a pass, he would just jog over to the sidelines and let the offense take over. Art Monk was not known for his endzone celebrations. I miss those kind of players. Separately, and back to the subject of accountability, I would like Landry to simply say, "You're right. I bit on a few plays, and they cashed in, and I let down my teammates. I will work even harder to make sure it doesn't happen again -- my team and the fans deserve it." For all the Suisam bashing going on, at least he stepped up and admitted he blew it. And Ethan Albright took the blame for a high snap (even though it wasn't). It is a mark or professionalism to admit to a mistake -- but perhaps as importantly, if players like Landry cannot even admit to having made them, how can we reasonably expect for them to learn from them?

12-08-2009, 10:18 AM	#5
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Accountability This is what happens when the Redskins draft a guy named Landry __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

12-08-2009, 10:34 AM	#7
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Accountability There's not much accountability b/c our coach doesn't have much authority to do anything. Right? He doesn't have control of his team. It's not his team, it's VC's and DS's. They let Zorn know that he's not going to be calling plays. Sure, Zorn controls some things but it's really not his team. Exhibit A, playcalling. I think by cutting the kicker you send a message. A message that says, we're not going to accept losing. It's a harsh message but it's the NFL and it's not always fair. Do you think Jimmie Johnson, Belicheck, Parcells, Lombardi, etc would keep Suisham after costing the team 2 games in 3 weeks? They probably wouldn't. Someone's got to pay, and unfortunately it's the kicker in most cases, whether it's fair or not.

12-08-2009, 11:09 AM	#8
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Accountability One of Landry's biggest plays sunday actually is a good example of how unsound his play often is. On that sack of Brees, he never even got his hands on him from what I could see. It was another hit w/no rap. Brees almost stayed on his feet. He had a big game yesterday save for a few plays. But when you're a free saftey you can't gamble when your team is up 7 & there's less than 2:00. I've thought that Landry has often been criticized unfairly this year for not "making plays" yet when he was out of the picture (literally if you're watching on tv) he was probably doing a great job. Now it seems the last 5 weeks or so he's getting out of position and/or taking chances to the detriment of the team. He's playing like Lavar at free safety!!! something seems amiss a la 2006, when the secondary was getting beat at least once a week by a deep ball. That year the T. Friend article quoted an anonymous source about how the safety & secondary coaches instructed players differently. If what we're seeing lately isn't a coaching/scheme issue, it's at least a coaching/discipline issue.

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