At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep?

Bucket · 12-14-2009, 04:26 AM

Keep Ganther...

Our Oline is actaully looking solid these past games with the younger guys in there and Williams at gaurd.

In a dream scenario..

Trade Portis, El, and a late round pick for a 1st round pick

Pick up a Olineman, and QB in the 1st.

Toby Gerhart in the 2nd

Add depth to our secondary and possibly LB in the 3rd.

If I was Cerrato, this is what I would do.

Skins4L · 12-14-2009, 04:43 AM

I think both.

Mason hasnt done much with his opportunities and his window is small.

Portis (our VET), Ganther / ROOKIE in a balanced rotation should keep things fresh.
Rock could sit 4th on the chart. Plus He can still return..

CRedskinsRule · 12-14-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucket

Keep Ganther...

Our Oline is actaully looking solid these past games with the younger guys in there and Williams at gaurd.

In a dream scenario..

Trade Portis, El, and a late round pick for a 1st round pick

Pick up a Olineman, and QB in the 1st.

Toby Gerhart in the 2nd

Add depth to our secondary and possibly LB in the 3rd.

If I was Cerrato, this is what I would do.

How would you trade Portis and El when you aren't in charge any more?

Seriously though, The OL did not play exceptionally yesterday, and the next two weeks will be real good benchmark tests for our team. Most of the OLine needs to go, in my mind, but if they stand up to NYG and Dal then I will gladly change my tune.

SolidSnake84 · 12-14-2009, 09:06 AM

I think Rock became expendable with the emergence of Ganther. Seriously...Rock is what 31? He would be good to keep as a backup but not if that means letting another talented back go.

Portis is likely finished. The way the other guys have been playing should prove that. Keep Ganther and draft a young back with the draft....that way we are set in the backfield...

SBXVII · 12-14-2009, 09:32 AM

Just to point out...for all you Rock fans. In the past Rock has not done anything at RB. Now I know some will say "Oh thats because he was not given a chance" but keep in mind he was not given a chance for a reason. All his chances have come in preseason where he has done diddly against 2nd stringers. I think I labled him the TTB2. He dances East/West instead of North/South. Now don't get me wrong, I to have paid him a few good compliments. When Portis was injured the next game when "both" he and Betts were in the plays together he knocked off some good runs. Then Betts got hurt and we relied on Rock to carry the load. That game if I'm not mistaken Ganther had more yard and I think JC was either first or 2nd in run yards. Rock on the field by himself = disaster. Plus he's close to 30 yrs old. Time to turn the page on all 3 of our RB's. Time to get youth, speed, and health. Also Thomas has filled in nicely as a KR. Rock is replaceable.

In years past I have probably been Mason's biggest advocate. I now consede. Although I like him I have not seen enough of him for a reason and even he failed to get a lot of yards yesterday. My only reason for keeping him is because he is similar to Ganther size wise and running style, he just isn't getting it done like Ganther. Now if Mason proves me wrong in these last few games then keep him.

Lest you all forget we also picked up Alridge. Shanahan spoke highly of him. Although he keeps getting cut and brought back I get the feeling the team was asked to pick him up for the future of the team....possibly by Shanahan. Just my feeling.

Also Portis is old and now injury prone and quite possibly out due to career ending injury but I don't see how we could trade him due to those injuries or trade away his big contract. Now if next year is an uncapped year then I say we simply cut bait or pay the majority of his contract off and resign to a better deal then look to trade him. If I hear correctly we can't cut him until after June 1st. If we do it prior he costs us more if after I think it was 6 mill?

Betts is the only one out of the old batch that I would keep, but with his injury who knows if he will be the same ground pounder he has been.

Obviously keep Ganther
If Mason is coachable keep him if not cut him pick up someone else in the draft
Keep Alridge as our scat back. Can we bring back Dorsey also? I would love to see us play a team and have both in the back field and prior to running the play split them both out on either side as WR's. I think the other team would have a melt down. LOL.

MTK · 12-14-2009, 09:35 AM

Sure didn't take long for people to turn on Rock... again.

SBXVII · 12-14-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Sure didn't take long for people to turn on Rock... again.

Don't look at me....I never stopped. Even after his nice game "with" Betts a few games ago I said don't get too high on him. He sucks by himself.

But if we are looking towards to future of this team and trying to get younger "everywhere" then all 3 RB's need to go. I said that last year as well although I also said Mason was our man. LOL.

MTK · 12-14-2009, 09:46 AM

The guy has proven his worth over the course of his 8 seasons here. I'm not going to even bother addressing this silly crap about him "sucking".

diehardskin2982 · 12-14-2009, 10:26 AM

change is gonna happen at the rb position next year for sure. if there is a cap i could see portis, ganther, young rookie combination. no cap portis is gone. i didn't see the game, did rock return kicks against the raiders?

Monkeydad · 12-14-2009, 11:02 AM

It has to be Ganther, so much potential and he's young. I love Rock as a player, he's a true Redskin, but he's had many chances and Ganther has just outplayed him.

Portis/Ganther full timeshare next year. Portis will be able to stay healthier hopefully and they'll make an explosive tandem.

pg86 · 12-14-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

change is gonna happen at the rb position next year for sure. if there is a cap i could see portis, ganther, young rookie combination. no cap portis is gone. i didn't see the game, did rock return kicks against the raiders?

No that bum Randle el did. Moss and Thomas did too

Trample the Elderly · 12-14-2009, 11:14 AM

I'd keep Ganther if I had to choose between the two. Honestly, I'd rather have both of them instead of Portis and Betts.

freddyg12 · 12-14-2009, 11:19 AM

I hope both will be Skins, and a part of me hopes that Portis & Betts can come back strong too. I know that may be highly unlikely, but w/Portis & Betts there's no telling at this point how their recovery & contract situations will play out.

skinsfan69 · 12-14-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Sure didn't take long for people to turn on Rock... again.

I just don't understand it. The guy has ran the ball very well and simply doesn't get any respect. The coaches shit on him and he doesn't deserve it.

skinsfan69 · 12-14-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Buster

It has to be Ganther, so much potential and he's young. I love Rock as a player, he's a true Redskin, but he's had many chances and Ganther has just outplayed him.

Portis/Ganther full timeshare next year. Portis will be able to stay healthier hopefully and they'll make an explosive tandem.

what has rock done wrong?

12-14-2009, 04:26 AM	#31
Bucket Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 3,881	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? Keep Ganther... Our Oline is actaully looking solid these past games with the younger guys in there and Williams at gaurd. In a dream scenario.. Trade Portis, El, and a late round pick for a 1st round pick Pick up a Olineman, and QB in the 1st. Toby Gerhart in the 2nd Add depth to our secondary and possibly LB in the 3rd. If I was Cerrato, this is what I would do.

12-14-2009, 04:43 AM	#32
Skins4L Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 886	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? I think both. Mason hasnt done much with his opportunities and his window is small. Portis (our VET), Ganther / ROOKIE in a balanced rotation should keep things fresh. Rock could sit 4th on the chart. Plus He can still return.. __________________ ALL HAIL

12-14-2009, 09:06 AM	#34
SolidSnake84 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 2,949	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? I think Rock became expendable with the emergence of Ganther. Seriously...Rock is what 31? He would be good to keep as a backup but not if that means letting another talented back go. Portis is likely finished. The way the other guys have been playing should prove that. Keep Ganther and draft a young back with the draft....that way we are set in the backfield... __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

12-14-2009, 09:32 AM	#35
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? Just to point out...for all you Rock fans. In the past Rock has not done anything at RB. Now I know some will say "Oh thats because he was not given a chance" but keep in mind he was not given a chance for a reason. All his chances have come in preseason where he has done diddly against 2nd stringers. I think I labled him the TTB2. He dances East/West instead of North/South. Now don't get me wrong, I to have paid him a few good compliments. When Portis was injured the next game when "both" he and Betts were in the plays together he knocked off some good runs. Then Betts got hurt and we relied on Rock to carry the load. That game if I'm not mistaken Ganther had more yard and I think JC was either first or 2nd in run yards. Rock on the field by himself = disaster. Plus he's close to 30 yrs old. Time to turn the page on all 3 of our RB's. Time to get youth, speed, and health. Also Thomas has filled in nicely as a KR. Rock is replaceable. In years past I have probably been Mason's biggest advocate. I now consede. Although I like him I have not seen enough of him for a reason and even he failed to get a lot of yards yesterday. My only reason for keeping him is because he is similar to Ganther size wise and running style, he just isn't getting it done like Ganther. Now if Mason proves me wrong in these last few games then keep him. Lest you all forget we also picked up Alridge. Shanahan spoke highly of him. Although he keeps getting cut and brought back I get the feeling the team was asked to pick him up for the future of the team....possibly by Shanahan. Just my feeling. Also Portis is old and now injury prone and quite possibly out due to career ending injury but I don't see how we could trade him due to those injuries or trade away his big contract. Now if next year is an uncapped year then I say we simply cut bait or pay the majority of his contract off and resign to a better deal then look to trade him. If I hear correctly we can't cut him until after June 1st. If we do it prior he costs us more if after I think it was 6 mill? Betts is the only one out of the old batch that I would keep, but with his injury who knows if he will be the same ground pounder he has been. Obviously keep Ganther If Mason is coachable keep him if not cut him pick up someone else in the draft Keep Alridge as our scat back. Can we bring back Dorsey also? I would love to see us play a team and have both in the back field and prior to running the play split them both out on either side as WR's. I think the other team would have a melt down. LOL.

12-14-2009, 09:35 AM	#36
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,563	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? Sure didn't take long for people to turn on Rock... again. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-14-2009, 09:46 AM	#38
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,563	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? The guy has proven his worth over the course of his 8 seasons here. I'm not going to even bother addressing this silly crap about him "sucking". __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-14-2009, 10:26 AM	#39
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? change is gonna happen at the rb position next year for sure. if there is a cap i could see portis, ganther, young rookie combination. no cap portis is gone. i didn't see the game, did rock return kicks against the raiders? __________________ That got ugly fast

12-14-2009, 11:02 AM	#40
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 45 Posts: 17,460	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? It has to be Ganther, so much potential and he's young. I love Rock as a player, he's a true Redskin, but he's had many chances and Ganther has just outplayed him. Portis/Ganther full timeshare next year. Portis will be able to stay healthier hopefully and they'll make an explosive tandem. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

12-14-2009, 11:14 AM	#42
Trample the Elderly Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 47 Posts: 2,906	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? I'd keep Ganther if I had to choose between the two. Honestly, I'd rather have both of them instead of Portis and Betts. __________________ A funny thing happened on the way to the temple. The moneychangers bought the priesthood.

12-14-2009, 11:19 AM	#43
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? I hope both will be Skins, and a part of me hopes that Portis & Betts can come back strong too. I know that may be highly unlikely, but w/Portis & Betts there's no telling at this point how their recovery & contract situations will play out.

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