Redskins trading out of the 4 spot?

[PHazard]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

I was listening to the show and the statement was that "Kyle Shanahan loves Colt Brennan" and that they would target a FA veteran like Chad Pennington or Jeff Garcia as an insurance policy.

Colt Brennan starting QB, Jeff Garcia, reliable backup if all of us in the Cult of Colt are wrong (which is possible). #4 pick on OT Okung, #36 pick on OT Charles Brown/Ducassee/Campbell. or trading back and picking up more picks. and still getting quality Olineman. Might be the most benefitial/smartest offseason in the Daniel Snyder era

-Haz

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

With the uncapped year, the possibility exists of seeing player for player deals like we hadn't seen before. Since the contracts were always a bit of an obstacle to getting deals done it's going to be interesting to see if teams are more aggressive/creative in acquiring players in different ways than signing free agents.

I think, and this is just my own speculation, the Redskins will be in several medium size deals as opposed to one or two major ones

[DIE-NASTY]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Interesting. I have a pretty good idea of who this source is that fed Sheehan that info. This source definitely has some connections, though I don't know who they are and he's no more "management" with the Redskins than Matty is with ESPN for knowing me or I am with the Capitals for knowing guys there.

But, if it is who I think it is, then yeah he's someone worth paying attention to:

That said, I do have a few comments:

-Are you sure they said Campbell and a pick or player for Whitner? That seems like overkill

-It's no secret that Campbell will be shopped. As I understand it though, the hope is more of a 3rd and 3rd/4th (maybe with some conditions that could move it up?) I haven't heard about any legit blockbuster trades. Still early though

-Haven't heard anything legit about Moss being involved in a trade

-From what I've heard Landry will be traded if the deal is right, whatever that means

-Rocky is being shopped as well. I think for a 3rd ideally (they'll tender him at a 2nd I think). Word is Jarmon might replace him at OLB...unless they land Peppers I guess

-I've heard Zac Robinson mentioned a couple of times but it hasn't sounded too legit to me. I think that's someone they may bring in if he doesn't get drafted (which he may not)

-Tony Pike's also been mentioned as a possible mid-round option (2nd/3rd)if they don't take a QB early.

-Not sure where this whole Shanahan loves Brennan thing is coming from. I know that people inside Redskin Park have been really pleased with Brennan's attitude this past year and he's made a good impression on new management. But I don't know that that necessarily equates to love.

-If the draft were today between Bradford and Clausen, Bradford has the slight edge

-Of course Bradford and Clausen are not the only two choices. I think I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago but it seems that Charles Brown is really the main target. Which I think is great. Of course, last year at this time it was Brian Cushing

-I don't think they plan on drafting Brown at #4 so if they did draft him I would assume a trade down did happen.

-The Colt they allegedly really love is Colt McCoy...so get ready for the Cabal of Colt!

-Remember, it's not even March

Do you work for the Skins?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by DIE-NASTY

Do you work for the Skins?

Nope

[skinsfaninok]

Smoot hit it on the head.. Anyone with a good sense of football knowledge know's we will atleast attempt to trade JC. He just won't fit in Shanahan's offense. As far as QB in the future goes, I still want Bradford because he has that "IT" Factor that doesn't come around often. Rocky being dealt isn't a big surprise either, he is avg at best anyway. Again it is late FEB, Hell i've heard that Oakland may try and get McNabb for Asomugha

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

man they know how to release stuff.. it's only feb and I'm like GIMME MORE INFO

some of it seems kind of impulsive though, but we'll see

I'm not exactly in a hurry just to see moves happen, but interested in what our coaches think of who is here

Rumors are all that's left when there's no information forthcoming. If Bruce Allen is anything like his father, what the team intends to do will not be broadcast to the world like previous years.

Since we have more than just a couple of needs, the idea of trading down (if possible) is intriguing

[dmek25]

even though 99% of this talk is garbage, it sure is entertaining

[DCtoAZ]

I don't like the idea of givin up on LL .. i know he's had numerous issues but the talent is there and he has shown that he can straight up play (2 picks in the playoff game a few years back) ... i also would like to hang onto Moss if possible just because I love the guy and I think that the combo of Moss / Kelly / and Showtime DT 11 has some promise .... DT may have the breakout year under Shanny .... I wonder why nobody has mentioned the fact that the Skins' were mentioned on ESPN for being in the McNabb running ???

[celts32]

Landry is one of the few players on this roster i do not want to trade. I want to see what he can become with a move back to SS and some new coaching.

Also Marshall is the type of "me" player i was hoping we were moving away from.

[GusFrerotte]

In love with Brennan? How? The guy was on IR the whole season and the only thing that saved him was Daniel was a shorty!!!!! Not much to evaluate a QB, much less say you love him. I can see the other trades go down, but you are taking a big risk in trading JC. Thing is he is your only real viable starter material you have with lots of playing experience. Not saying JC should necessarily be the starter, but you should have a vet backup. Zac Robinson? Are you shitting me? I would get Lefevour or Kafka over him. Shoot I might take a gamble with Elliot out of Purdue.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think, and this is just my own speculation, the Redskins will be in several medium size deals as opposed to one or two major ones

Sounds like Parcells when he took over in Miami.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Smoot hit it on the head.. Anyone with a good sense of football knowledge know's we will atleast attempt to trade JC. He just won't fit in Shanahan's offense. As far as QB in the future goes, I still want Bradford because he has that "IT" Factor that doesn't come around often. Rocky being dealt isn't a big surprise either, he is avg at best anyway. Again it is late FEB, Hell i've heard that Oakland may try and get McNabb for Asomugha

I want to see how the "IT" factor does when the odds are even. Hard not to come across like you are going to be a stud with a stacked team playing markedly inferior opponents 9-10 weeks of the season. Just look at Leinart. Guy was hyped as having the "IT" factor also, and he didn't have a suspect shoulder. Warner beat him out, an old fart who played for my uncle at N Iowa.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by PHazard

Colt Brennan starting QB, Jeff Garcia, reliable backup if all of us in the Cult of Colt are wrong (which is possible). #4 pick on OT Okung, #36 pick on OT Charles Brown/Ducassee/Campbell. or trading back and picking up more picks. and still getting quality Olineman. Might be the most benefitial/smartest offseason in the Daniel Snyder era

-Haz

Rather have JC as the backup. Garcia would be a step down from JC.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by DCtoAZ

I don't like the idea of givin up on LL .. i know he's had numerous issues but the talent is there and he has shown that he can straight up play (2 picks in the playoff game a few years back) ... i also would like to hang onto Moss if possible just because I love the guy and I think that the combo of Moss / Kelly / and Showtime DT 11 has some promise .... DT may have the breakout year under Shanny .... I wonder why nobody has mentioned the fact that the Skins' were mentioned on ESPN for being in the McNabb running ???

Moss is killing me

between his refusal to buy into the system to him getting double teamed (which is somewhat comical, but if you've got the extra guy, go for it, they're getting to our qb and other receivers no prob) he's near irrelevant, at least as far as a game changer

I don't think that there will ever be anything near a monday night miracle ever again from him, those are career games, but I don't think he'd have it in him even given the opportunity

to me, not being anywhere near the team, it reminds me of someone who decides they don't have to prove anything anymore.. so at this point you'll get your most value by making him prove himself to remain a valuable player.. to me that means having him in plenty of slot duty and returns

[GusFrerotte]

IF they are going to get anything for Moss they better do it now. They already might have missed the opportunity to get anything of real value for shopping Portis around.