Updated: Redskins Make Major Roster Cuts

MTK · 03-04-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

i'm making assumptions and not presenting it as anything other than speculation. Reid is making assumptions and stating them as fact. haynesworth is very vocal about his opinions, so i'm sure once he officially knows how he'll be used, we'll hear his opinion.

Your assumptions come off a little more strongly than speculation, just sayin'

CultBrennan59 · 03-04-2010, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Carter should be kept as he may have some value. The rest can go. I would like to see CP gone as well but it appears that he is staying.

agreed I think we could get a 4th or a 5th at the least for him. The rest can be banished from this team.

Defensewins · 03-04-2010, 03:41 PM

It is not good the WP article used the base salary number rather than the more important Cap number. Reason being there is a huge discrepancy between some of the players cap and base number. More importantly the cap is coming back in 2011 and now is the time to purge some these ridiculously over priced players. For example:

1) Andre Carter's 2010 base is listed at only $1.3M but he will take up $5.2M in the cap. At least according to our cap sheet. He ain't worth that.

2) Clinton Portis $10M+ for the next four years. Not durable enough for a $10m back.

3) Randy Thoms $5.4M...Bye Bye!

4) London Fletcher $7.1M the next two years. Love the guy...but.

5) Freddy Smoot $5.4M in 2010 and $6.9M! in 2011. Bye bye.

6) Todd Collins $3.5M Has to go.

The only twp people I would want to see come back is Griffen and Smoot.
Smoot is not worth $5.4M for 2010. So he would have to be be cut and hopefully agree to come back at $1M and play nickle back safety only. His days as a man cover corner are nearly gone. He can get away with it for a play or two but he can not start an entire game and be great at corner.
Griffen at $2M is a bargain considering when he is healthy the guy is still a handful for most OL.
Carter is a good player but he has not blossomed or lived up to the $5.2M cap space he will take up next year.

MTK · 03-04-2010, 03:58 PM

You want to cut Fletcher??

GTripp0012 · 03-04-2010, 04:00 PM

Think he was just pointing out that at $7.1 million, he's not a good value next year. If he thinks he should be cut, I would disagree.

Lotus · 03-04-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

well it hasn't even been confirmed that we're definitely switching to a 3-4... the most we've gotten is that we're switching to a 3-4 with a 4-man front which doesnt' really tell me anything. Haynesworth could very well play NT, but, from everything we know of his character, he wouldn't be happy there. From our perspective, we would be fools to force him into the role as our full-time NT. Reids making assumptions and treating them as fact, and thats the main thing I take issue with. I certainly don't see any reason we should be getting rid of Griff, especially considering how cheap he is.

If I had to predict, i'd say we played more 4-3 this year than anything else and that we'll switch to 3-4 when Haynesworth steps off the field to take his breathers.

After hearing Shanny gush about the 3-4 during his combine interview, my assumption is that we will be going whole-hog 3-4 sooner rather than later.

Pocket$ $traight · 03-04-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

You want to cut Fletcher??

Cutting Fletcher and wanting to keep Smoot and Griffin doesn't make sense to me.

Fletcher may not be at his peak but he is still pretty close and (knock on wood) he is an alien when it comes to staying healthy.

SirClintonPortis · 03-04-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

well it hasn't even been confirmed that we're definitely switching to a 3-4... the most we've gotten is that we're switching to a 3-4 with a 4-man front which doesnt' really tell me anything. Haynesworth could very well play NT, but, from everything we know of his character, he wouldn't be happy there. From our perspective, we would be fools to force him into the role as our full-time NT. Reids making assumptions and treating them as fact, and thats the main thing I take issue with. I certainly don't see any reason we should be getting rid of Griff, especially considering how cheap he is.

If I had to predict, i'd say we played more 4-3 this year than anything else and that we'll switch to 3-4 when Haynesworth steps off the field to take his breathers.

4-man fronts are not uncommon even for 3-4 teams. Just check some Ware highlights and you'll see him frequently with the his hand in the dirt.

Defensewins · 03-04-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

You want to cut Fletcher??

Of course not. He is the heart of this team. But he does have a big cap number.
My point is now is the time to dump some of these painfully back loaded deals, like Portis or Randy Thomas.
My list was just pointing to players with big cap numbers as compared to their relatively modest base salary.
In reference to Smoot and Griffen being the only two I would keep, that is drawn from the much smaller WP list in the article. Not form my list. I want Fletch to retire with us. He reminds me of a much better and more athletic Neil Olkewitz (sp?). Someone that will go through a brick wall to win a game. He is a keeper. The problem that Fletch my encounter in the next few years is I am not sure how he will do as an inside 3-4 LB? I love the guy as a Redskin. But IF we switch to 3-4 def full time and Fletch can not keep up his high level, $7.1M is a big number for a possible square peg in a round hole. Just something to think about.

Sorry I was not clear.

Ruhskins · 03-04-2010, 05:07 PM

Looks like the Redskins have begun with their cuts....

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RickMaese

Redskins cuts are beginning: RB Rock Cartwright will be released, according to league source

GTripp0012 · 03-04-2010, 05:10 PM

Rock was a pretty inevitable one. He'll be missed, but, hardly a surprise.

BigHairedAristocrat · 03-04-2010, 05:10 PM

I think ARE should have been cut first, on principle alone.

Pocket$ $traight · 03-04-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Looks like the Redskins have begun with their cuts....

One crybaby out the door....Now Marcus Mason can lead us to glory!!!

Pocket$ $traight · 03-04-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I think ARE should have been cut first, on principle alone.

I am right with you. Every cut that isn't him makes me nervous...

GTripp0012 · 03-04-2010, 05:21 PM

Maese also Tweets: Randy Thomas released

Twitter / Rick Maese: League source says G Randy ...

The Shanahan-Skins are born.

03-04-2010, 03:41 PM	#33
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,749	re: Updated: Redskins Make Major Roster Cuts It is not good the WP article used the base salary number rather than the more important Cap number. Reason being there is a huge discrepancy between some of the players cap and base number. More importantly the cap is coming back in 2011 and now is the time to purge some these ridiculously over priced players. For example: 1) Andre Carter's 2010 base is listed at only $1.3M but he will take up $5.2M in the cap. At least according to our cap sheet. He ain't worth that. 2) Clinton Portis $10M+ for the next four years. Not durable enough for a $10m back. 3) Randy Thoms $5.4M...Bye Bye! 4) London Fletcher $7.1M the next two years. Love the guy...but. 5) Freddy Smoot $5.4M in 2010 and $6.9M! in 2011. Bye bye. 6) Todd Collins $3.5M Has to go. The only twp people I would want to see come back is Griffen and Smoot. Smoot is not worth $5.4M for 2010. So he would have to be be cut and hopefully agree to come back at $1M and play nickle back safety only. His days as a man cover corner are nearly gone. He can get away with it for a play or two but he can not start an entire game and be great at corner. Griffen at $2M is a bargain considering when he is healthy the guy is still a handful for most OL. Carter is a good player but he has not blossomed or lived up to the $5.2M cap space he will take up next year. Last edited by Defensewins; 03-04-2010 at 04:19 PM.

03-04-2010, 03:58 PM	#34
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03-04-2010, 04:00 PM	#35
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	re: Updated: Redskins Make Major Roster Cuts Think he was just pointing out that at $7.1 million, he's not a good value next year. If he thinks he should be cut, I would disagree. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

03-04-2010, 05:10 PM	#41
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	re: Updated: Redskins Make Major Roster Cuts Rock was a pretty inevitable one. He'll be missed, but, hardly a surprise. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

03-04-2010, 05:10 PM	#42
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	re: Updated: Redskins Make Major Roster Cuts I think ARE should have been cut first, on principle alone. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

03-04-2010, 05:21 PM	#45
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	re: Updated: Redskins Make Major Roster Cuts Maese also Tweets: Randy Thomas released Twitter / Rick Maese: League source says G Randy ... The Shanahan-Skins are born. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

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