On the radar: Skins WR's

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Id pass on Crayton, we already have a bunch of number 3 receivers. We need our own guys to step it up at this point.

I completely love the optimism..... however......

Just to point out some obvious issue/issues:

1- If Thomas and Kelly were any good they would have shown some sort of spark by now.

2- Kelly is technically only in his 2nd yr since his first was an injury yr.

3- If Thomas and Kelly were the itshay that everyone thinks or hopes they will be why go out and pick up 2 vets, 1 drafted Rookie, and an undrafted free agent?

I too hope the 2 step up big and we all can rest knowing we have 2 excellent WR's, but I'm also the type who likes to prepare. I like to make contingencies in case the two don't. Which means if the 2 don't work out to be decent, the 2 vets suck, and only 1 of the Rookies works out we are still screwed. All we would have is Moss and a Rookie.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I completely love the optimism..... however......

Just to point out some obvious issue/issues:

1- If Thomas and Kelly were any good they would have shown some sort of spark by now.

2- Kelly is technically only in his 2nd yr since his first was an injury yr.

3- If Thomas and Kelly were the itshay that everyone thinks or hopes they will be why go out and pick up 2 vets, 1 drafted Rookie, and an undrafted free agent?

I too hope the 2 step up big and we all can rest knowing we have 2 excellent WR's, but I'm also the type who likes to prepare. I like to make contingencies in case the two don't. Which means if the 2 don't work out to be decent, the 2 vets suck, and only 1 of the Rookies works out we are still screwed. All we would have is Moss and a Rookie.

daggon, u gettin' me excited!!!!!!

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I completely love the optimism..... however......

Just to point out some obvious issue/issues:

1- If Thomas and Kelly were any good they would have shown some sort of spark by now.

2- Kelly is technically only in his 2nd yr since his first was an injury yr.

3- If Thomas and Kelly were the itshay that everyone thinks or hopes they will be why go out and pick up 2 vets, 1 drafted Rookie, and an undrafted free agent?

I too hope the 2 step up big and we all can rest knowing we have 2 excellent WR's, but I'm also the type who likes to prepare. I like to make contingencies in case the two don't. Which means if the 2 don't work out to be decent, the 2 vets suck, and only 1 of the Rookies works out we are still screwed. All we would have is Moss and a Rookie.

C'mon man save that pessimism for the defense.

Our offense is gonna be legit this year and be exciting to watch.

1.) Thomas has shown spark. With the ball in his hands he's maybe the most athletic guy on the team. In a sense, now that we have a real WR coach and a very real offensive scheme, Thomas' probability for success goes up dramatically. He's got to learn to run solid routes and create separation. He does those things and we have a monster on our hands.

2.) Any success Kelly has w/ us is just icing at this point.

3.) I tend to believe the Shanahan's would definitely have acquired more starting talent at WR if they didn't expect big things from our guys. Mike and Kyle will live and die by their offense, and if they haven't figured as much out then it's all really moot anyway.

I think the offensive scheme will maximize our talent. That means heavy doses of TE receptions. My guess is Moss and Thomas start @ WR w/ Fred getting work in the slot and Cooley at TE. If Kelly makes some strides we'll see him work at WR and the slot.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by The Goat

C'mon man save that pessimism for the defense.

Our offense is gonna be legit this year and be exciting to watch.

1.) Thomas has shown spark. With the ball in his hands he's maybe the most athletic guy on the team. In a sense, now that we have a real WR coach and a very real offensive scheme, Thomas' probability for success goes up dramatically. He's got to learn to run solid routes and create separation. He does those things and we have a monster on our hands.

2.) Any success Kelly has w/ us is just icing at this point.

3.) I tend to believe the Shanahan's would definitely have acquired more starting talent at WR if they didn't expect big things from our guys. Mike and Kyle will live and die by their offense, and if they haven't figured as much out then it's all really moot anyway.

I think the offensive scheme will maximize our talent. That means heavy doses of TE receptions. My guess is Moss and Thomas start @ WR w/ Fred getting work in the slot and Cooley at TE. If Kelly makes some strides we'll see him work at WR and the slot.

We'll see. Thomas seems to have the best chance to be the one that makes an impact. But when I see Crabtree walk in off the street w/ no training camp, miss a few games and he ends up catching more balls from Alex Smith than these guys have done in two years it really makes me doubt their ability. I just don't think these guys are any good but I hope I'm wrong.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I believe we should take a look at Crayton.

Don't know if we should sign him though. I think if we have some one go down or not picking up the playbook properly in training camp I think TO could get a look to.

[franklinhimself]

I think with McNabb and the Shanahans, we're going to have a much better offense than last year. It's going to be so much better. Think of what McNabb did with the likes of Todd Pinkston, and Reggie Brown as top receivers year to year.
There was a report back in January about Kelly siting down with MS and going over middle of the field routes run by Andre Johnson, and that's how they want to use Kelly. This coaching staff is such an upgrade to last year, and I think it will show this season.
MS knows how to utilize talent and intangibles.

[SBXVII]

The good news is there is a lot to keep the fans interested in;

1- How will both Shanahan's offense look?
2- How much of the offense will the players retain?
3- How will McNabb look and perform in this offense?
4- Which WR will step up and shine?
5- Will the team utilize both Davis and Cooley?
6- Which RB will outperform the others?
7- How will the OL perform?

Then there's the defense;
8- Will the players have a decent grasp of the scheme?
9- How will our players perform in the scheme?
10- Will AH be here and be a beast?
11- Do we have the right mix of players to play together?
12- Will special teams be better then in past yrs?

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

The good news is there is a lot to keep the fans interested in;

1- How will both Shanahan's offense look?
2- How much of the offense will the players retain?
3- How will McNabb look and perform in this offense?
4- Which WR will step up and shine?
5- Will the team utilize both Davis and Cooley?
6- Which RB will outperform the others?
7- How will the OL perform?

Then there's the defense;
8- Will the players have a decent grasp of the scheme?
9- How will our players perform in the scheme?
10- Will AH be here and be a beast?
11- Do we have the right mix of players to play together?
12- Will special teams be better then in past yrs?

1- AWESOME
2- A LOT
3- Like a Pro Bowler
4- Marko Mitchell (oops)... Devin Thomas
5- YES!
6- Brian Westbrook
7- Either masterfully or catastrophically

8- By week 3 or 4
9- Admirably
10- Yes when he's not on one knee on the sideline sucking air.
11- Of course
12- I hope so?!? :confused-

(My predictions for SBXVII's news to keep me interested in. PS, feel free to disagree)

[skinsfan69]

I'm so tired of talking about these two guys. It's year 3. Either you start doing it in games or it's time to move on. I bet one of them doesn't even make the team..my guess it would be Kelly cause he doesn't play teams.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm so tired of talking about these two guys. It's year 3. Either you start doing it in games or it's time to move on. I bet one of them doesn't even make the team..my guess it would be Kelly cause he doesn't play teams.

I like your post. I agree with your points.
Kind of reminds me of the Taylor Jacobs situation. I never heard so many excuses for a player(s). The coaches, the sceme, the Qb's, the OL, the weather, have to wait till 3rd year , the footballs are different, but not the player.
I want them to be great, but at this point I will take just being productive.!
The Db's in the NFL are so much better than in college. That they failed their fitness test in their rookie year is very telling. They thought they were going to come in as stars and automatically be great. I would have walked in the best shape of my life. At 6'2" and 220 pounds if your not going to light up the field with receptions, at least knock a few small DB's on the ground, mix it up, get in a scuffle or two. These guys need to develop a mean streak. Westbrook like...even.

[GTripp0012]

Redskins 2009 AV totals are out at profootballreference. I just listed the offensive totals here.

1. QB Jason Campbell 11
2. OT Stephon Heyer 7
3. WR Santana Moss 7
4. TE Fred Davis 6
5. G Derrick Dockery 6
6. C Casey Rabach 6
7. WR Antwaan Randle El 4
8. RB Rock Cartwright 4
9. RB Clinton Portis 4
10. RB Ladell Betts 3
11. FB Mike Sellers 3
12. OL Mike Williams 3
13. WR Malcolm Kelly 3
14. WR Devin Thomas 3
15. TE Chris Cooley 3
16. OT Levi Jones 3
17. OT Chris Samuels 2
18. RB Quinton Ganther 2
19. G Chad Rinehart 2
20. G Will Montgomery 2
21. G Edwin Williams 1
22. G Randy Thomas 1
23. RB Marcus Mason 1
24. TE Todd Yoder 1
25. WR Marko Mitchell 0
26. OT D'Anthony Batiste 0
27. OT Will Robinson 0

[SBXVII]

I find myself almost rooting for the other WR's now, Armstrong, Austin, Banks. I found this nice nugget from Matt Terl's tweet page...

I think @LarryWeisman is becoming obsessed with WR Anthony Armstrong. Guy keeps making catches.
about 1 hour ago via Echofon

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I find myself almost rooting for the other WR's now, Armstrong, Austin, Banks. I found this nice nugget from Matt Terl's tweet page...

Great, the hype wagon is already getting revved up for the next training camp hero.

[SBXVII]

This from Larry Weisman's tweet page...

Brandon Banks ran sub 4.4 40s here at 6:15 a.m. during minicamp. Lack of girth (147 pounds) will be an issue but they love his speed.
10:12 AM May 28th via TweetDeck

RT @Brett_Pollard: @LarryWeisman what are the chances little Brandon banks will make the final 53 man roster?
10:09 AM May 28th via TweetDeck

[SBXVII]

More tweets....

Fine catch-and-run by WR Anthony Armstrong.
about 2 hours ago via mobile web

TE Sean Ryan out fights rookie ILB Dennis Riley for catch in traffic.
about 1 hour ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

In goal line. Chris Cooley beats Kareem Moore to the corner. Theoretical TD. Practice ends.
34 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®