Cop Punches Student

[Trample the Elderly]

Yeah if you're going to put your hands on a cop (man or woman), be prepared to go the distance. Trust me on this one.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I think the punch was a bit too much and I think if anything he should maybe receive some sort of reprimand in his file or some sort of minor fine, but you don't get in the way of an officer trying to do his job. Period.

I mean the second chick (the one in the pink shirt who pushed the officer away) to me is just flat out stupid. No friend is worth me getting either 1) arrested or 2) getting my lights punched out over. Eff that, sorry girlfriend, you get arrested and you're on your own.

Interesting take. The problem with society is no one wants to respect or trust cops. I'll be the first to tell you there are bad cops. No different then in any other job. There is always one bad apple and unfortunately all the rest get the bad apple routine.

I'll say it again, we don't know why the officer was even there dealing with the juvenile. Maybe she had been fighting another girl and when the cop showed up she resisted arrest. Then the friend got involved. I can tell you this when an officer is dealing with an issue .... never put your hands on them. By court room standards .... it's assault on law enforcement. Even if it's just a push.

[firstdown]

When I was her age if you pushed a cop you would be lucky if you only got punched in the face. To many kids now day do not respect athority and just look at the attacks on teachers now days. Kids are taught that no one has the right to touch them and this is what we get. I would have never thought of touching a cop back in the day.

[CRedskinsRule]

I have to say I am surprised by the overall support for the cop. When I was an MP if that situation had arisen, you get control, but also you get backup. Some comments imply backup may have been on the way, but during the video he never used his radio mike right by his shoulder. At one point he nearly pulled the one girls shirt off, and he was in the middle of what could have become a mob. As Saden said, you back off, give firm commands, with the taser at the ready, and work to diffuse the situation, not go whaling about. My guess is he didn't initially call for backup because he felt in control, and once it got mixed up he let his emotions control his actions. I can not in my mind justify his punch in any way. Once pushed and cleared he should have straightened up and gotten the taser ready. Also, this was NOT a barroom situation where everyone was kinda roudy and outta control, where punches might get thrown, this was a teenage girl jaywalking.

From the bit I've seen, I just can't accept that his punch was appropriate.

[GMScud]

What a fail by that cop. Punches one woman in the face, then after more than two minutes when the video ends he still has yet to restrain that woman who's significatly smaller than him. Wus.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GMScud

What a fail by that cop. Punches one woman in the face, then after more than two minutes when the video ends he still has yet to restrain that woman who's significatly smaller than him. Wus.

To me this is the bottom line. The cop is a pussy and a moron...double threat guy! He can't handle himself (physically, mentally or emotionally) and completely lost control of a situation that really shouldn't have gone anywhere. Forget about the guidelines, laws and regulations. If the precinct wants to have a cheese-ball like that on the force you can't have respect for the local law enforcement.

I find the broad-based support of the dude's actions disturbing and sad.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by The Goat

To me this is the bottom line. The cop is a pussy and a moron...double threat guy! He can't handle himself (physically, mentally or emotionally) and completely lost control of a situation that really shouldn't have gone anywhere. Forget about the guidelines, laws and regulations. If the precinct wants to have a cheese-ball like that on the force you can't have respect for the local law enforcement.

I find the broad-based support of the dude's actions disturbing and sad.

I agree with everything you just wrote.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by The Goat

To me this is the bottom line. The cop is a pussy and a moron...double threat guy! He can't handle himself (physically, mentally or emotionally) and completely lost control of a situation that really shouldn't have gone anywhere. Forget about the guidelines, laws and regulations. If the precinct wants to have a cheese-ball like that on the force you can't have respect for the local law enforcement.

I find the broad-based support of the dude's actions disturbing and sad.

Why because he was attacked while doing his job and was defending himself? It seems like your making the excuse for the girl and what she did and thats why kids think they can get away with this shit.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by The Goat

To me this is the bottom line. The cop is a pussy and a moron...double threat guy! He can't handle himself (physically, mentally or emotionally) and completely lost control of a situation that really shouldn't have gone anywhere. Forget about the guidelines, laws and regulations. If the precinct wants to have a cheese-ball like that on the force you can't have respect for the local law enforcement.

I find the broad-based support of the dude's actions disturbing and sad.

Your sympathy for those who would obstruct justice is disturbing and sad.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by GMScud

What a fail by that cop. Punches one woman in the face, then after more than two minutes when the video ends he still has yet to restrain that woman who's significatly smaller than him. Wus.

thats the part im stuck on as well. a cop with proper training should have been able to control her and get her hands behind her back fairly easily.

i just dont understand why he was grabbing her wrists for a minute. give her clear commands, if she doesnt oblige, use your training to restrain her.

his technic was odd and i assume not within his training. these guys get training for a reason.

PS - if you get pulled over in baltimore city, the police officer gives you a piece of paper stating your pullover was not based on racial pretenses and profiling and that you were not physically or unconstitutionally abused. im pretty sure i had to sign the paper while the cop was there. it was odd, it was like i was giving the police officer a report card.

either way, it was strange to sign off that i did not believe my pull over was racially motivated.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

thats the part im stuck on as well. a cop with proper training should have been able to control her and get her hands behind her back fairly easily.

i just dont understand why he was grabbing her wrists for a minute. give her clear commands, if she doesnt oblige, use your training to restrain her.

his technic was odd and i assume not within his training. these guys get training for a reason.

PS - if you get pulled over in baltimore city, the police officer gives you a piece of paper stating your pullover was not based on racial pretenses and profiling and that you were not physically or unconstitutionally abused. im pretty sure i had to sign the paper while the cop was there. it was odd, it was like i was giving the police officer a report card.

either way, it was strange to sign off that i did not believe my pull over was racially motivated.

I have been pulled over in B-more never got that...out of curiosity are you black? I am white for the record. Iam just wondering if they only give that to minorities.

[SBXVII]

Here is what I learned of the case. ...

The cop had stopped a man for jaywalking. Yes it's petty but while dealing with the man the 1st girl started running her mouth and became angry. At this point she is already obstructing justice because the officer is trying to deal with the jaywalker not her. When he tries to detain her or take her into custody the 2nd female steps up and tries to push the officer off her friend.

I'll be honest with you they both are lucky they weren't pepper sprayed or tazered. The punch was not a big deal considering officers are taught stunning techniques like stepping on toes, raking the shin, chop to the neck. In a nut shell officers are being taught Jujitsu. The officer could have done a lot worse and didn't. Maybe pepper spray might have been more appropriate but did he have time to use it before the other girl walked into the fight? He could have broken the contact and pulled his tazer and been in his legal right to have tazered both. Now what would have been worse the punch or the other two?

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[Nomad]

I'm a black man, and the cop was clearly right for punching her, she should of let him do his job, and then, if they thought it was some case (racist) then they could have taking legal actions later....... this no different than when that white cop punched that black teenage girl for biting him..... in this case, the cop could have pulled out his tazor and started tazing they ass........ but hey everyone go have a opinion thats mine.

[tryfuhl]

Had a great FB debate on this. I have no problem with what happened.

There is a longer/full vid from this and it shows more of what happened before the punch. I'm not sure he needed to do it but honestly he needed to create separation and it worked. In the long term that's less painful than mace or a taser. By taking her to the ground to restrain her he'd have left his weapons exposed and there were plenty of people around. He could've also been more prone to external attack.

That girl just didn't want to behave. You guys know that I'll say F Cops just about as quickly as anybody on here but he's fine here. Had that been a guy he would've gotten the baton justifiably.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Had a great FB debate on this. I have no problem with what happened.

There is a longer/full vid from this and it shows more of what happened before the punch. I'm not sure he needed to do it but honestly he needed to create separation and it worked. In the long term that's less painful than mace or a taser. By taking her to the ground to restrain her he'd have left his weapons exposed and there were plenty of people around. He could've also been more prone to external attack.

That girl just didn't want to behave. You guys know that I'll say F Cops just about as quickly as anybody on here but he's fine here. Had that been a guy he would've gotten the baton justifiably.

LOL had it been a guy the cop would've been whooped before he could say peep...