Condoms For First Graders?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

You're in the dark ages bro. Seriously. This is 2010 not 1950.

What a shit arguement. Maybe we need to head back to the 50's and the morals that people had back then because the way things are going now don't seem to work all that great. The more and more we have this free thinking that everything is good and ok the more our society goes to shit.

I'm sorry I started this thread today because I'm heading to Nags Head today and leaving right now as my wife and daughter just walked into my office. You guys should not attack each other personaly.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by firstdown

What a shit arguement. Maybe we need to head back to the 50's and the morals that people had back then because the way things are going now don't seem to work all that great. The more and more we have this free thinking that everything is good and ok the more our society goes to shit.

I'm sorry I started this thread today because I'm heading to Nags Head today and leaving right now as my wife and daughter just walked into my office. You guys should not attack each other personaly.

As long as Saden has an active password, personal attacks will fly...you should have known that.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

What a shit arguement. Maybe we need to head back to the 50's and the morals that people had back then because the way things are going now don't seem to work all that great. The more and more we have this free thinking that everything is good and ok the more our society goes to shit.

I'm sorry I started this thread today because I'm heading to Nags Head today and leaving right now as my wife and daughter just walked into my office. You guys should not attack each other personaly.

lol you knew the shitstorm you were creating. You started off with your typical attack on liberals.

Perhaps my take on the 50s isn't accurate. Things weren't all that much different in the 50s. People were just better at keeping things private.

I should have referred to the stone ages. You and buster can probably relate better to that time.

[mlmpetert]

I guess i think its okay. If you put a age limit on it, say 6th grade, then 6th graders are going to think its okay to or feel pressure into having sex. If you just make condoms available for all students then nothing changes from year to year and there wont be mentality of "im entering 6th grade time to get some condoms and bang Stacy". Same thing if you put parent notification on it.

Im not sure if schools should provide condoms in the first place though. Maybe a better solution would be to have a government facility (like fire station, or police station), give out free condoms no questions asked. At the end of day its a public health issue, and if they want to limit sodium in our foods then I guess they should be able to force condoms on us too.

[Chico23231]

There should be an age limit. Anyone who would give a condom to a first grader should be fired.

But that raises the question, which is the appropriate age? When does sex ed begin in school these days..5th, 6th grade? Make the condom availible to middle schooler then...its really not that hard of a problem to solve

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

There should be an age limit. Anyone who would give a condom to a first grader should be fired.

But that raises the question, which is the appropriate age? When does sex ed begin in school these days..5th, 6th grade? Make the condom availible to middle schooler then...its really not that hard of a problem to solve

It is when concerned parents have to battle liberals in the education system who want to expose kids to homosexuality and any religion OTHER than Christianity, it's nearly impossible.

It's no shock that t-shirts of a horrible human being Che Guevera are so popular with teens these days, they're not being taught who he really was. He's being built up as some hero in the warped version of history being taught in an attempt to get the kids on "their" side.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buster

It is when concerned parents have to battle liberals in the education system who want to expose kids to homosexuality and any religion OTHER than Christianity, it's nearly impossible.

You're so warped it's laughable.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

You're so warped it's laughable.

Coming from someone who thinks like you, that's a badge of honor.

Get your head out of the sand...school have an agenda far more expansive than teaching math and grammar.

I've seen it first hand with my local school district, where the ACLU came in and forced the school to change their science curriculum against the will of 98% of the parents...simply because the school was teaching that evolution was a THEORY and not proven fact. TWO atheist parents were "offended" and called ACLU lawyers.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Buster

It is when concerned parents have to battle liberals in the education system who want to expose kids to homosexuality and any religion OTHER than Christianity, it's nearly impossible.

Schools are for learning. Homosexuality and religions other than Christianity are truths. If you really do support teaching the truth -- and not brainwashing -- then it seems to me that you would support teaching any truth. Apparently not. You look to be exactly what you are preaching against.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Schools are for learning. Homosexuality and religions other than Christianity are truths. If you really do support teaching the truth -- and not brainwashing -- then it seems to me that you would support teaching any truth. Apparently not. You look to be exactly what you are preaching against.

So then why can't we teach BOTH Christianity and Islam? Creationism and Evolution side by side?

Why not teach everything and let the students form their own informed decisions?

This is NOT happening...certain principles are being silenced, by curricula and lawsuits, while others are being actively pushed. Revisionist history is alive and well.

I'd prefer if schools taught everything...more rather than less...BUT this is not happening, they're trying to shape students' opinions to agree with them rather than being a place of free learning and informed decisions.

You can't really disagree with that.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Schools are for learning. Homosexuality and religions other than Christianity are truths. If you really do support teaching the truth -- and not brainwashing -- then it seems to me that you would support teaching any truth. Apparently not. You look to be exactly what you are preaching against.

This.

Definitely.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Schools are for learning. Homosexuality and religions other than Christianity are truths. If you really do support teaching the truth -- and not brainwashing -- then it seems to me that you would support teaching any truth. Apparently not. You look to be exactly what you are preaching against.

amen bro

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Buster

It is when concerned parents have to battle liberals in the education system who want to expose kids to homosexuality and any religion OTHER than Christianity, it's nearly impossible.

It's no shock that t-shirts of a horrible human being Che Guevera are so popular with teens these days, they're not being taught who he really was. He's being built up as some hero in the warped version of history being taught in an attempt to get the kids on "their" side.

Dude Matty said step out of the 1950's...Viva La Revolucion!!!

[Trample the Elderly]

Meanwhile the Chinese are pumping out engineers like hot cakes at a fraction of the cost.

I don't know about y'all, but I learned what it was all about working on farms as a kid. I mean you see animals screw all day long? No big deal. Maybe they should just take a field trip to a farm? It would be much cheaper and they could say, "Hey we're just trying to educate the children about the Planet". Problem solved.

Why is it the business of schools to give kids rubbers? It's not their job to protect children from STDs. Here's an idea, segregate the sexes at school, and they'll not screw.

I'd dig ditches before I'd send me kid to a public school.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

There should be an age limit. Anyone who would give a condom to a first grader should be fired.

But that raises the question, which is the appropriate age? When does sex ed begin in school these days..5th, 6th grade? Make the condom availible to middle schooler then...its really not that hard of a problem to solve

I doubt that they even stocked the elementary schools with them. It has to be done by request through the school nurse. What 1st grader is going to go to the school nurse to request a condom?

More Fox News flipping out over bullshit.