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Old 09-20-2010, 01:23 PM   #1
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Re: Suspect Safety Play

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Zones have natural soft spots and right now we're getting picked apart, granted by good QBs and WRs. Haslett has been super aggressive with the front 7 and might need to start dialing that back a bit.
We were getting killed in the second half when we WEREN'T being aggressive it seemed to me.
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Old 09-20-2010, 01:28 PM   #2
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Re: Suspect Safety Play

Doughty surely is being made into a scapegoat.

Do I wish he made the play? Of course! But his coverage was not bad. One of the best receivers in the game used his height advantage to make a great play on the ball.

In the end, Doughty did not blow a 17 point lead all by himself.
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Old 09-20-2010, 02:04 PM   #3
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Doughty surely is being made into a scapegoat.

Do I wish he made the play? Of course! But his coverage was not bad. One of the best receivers in the game used his height advantage to make a great play on the ball.

In the end, Doughty did not blow a 17 point lead all by himself.
I do not think he is being made a scapegoat. Maybe a small few are, but not overall.
Let's not kid ourselves though, Doughty is a very good back up and excellent special teamer, but he is not a standout as an every down Free Safety.
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Old 09-21-2010, 01:59 AM   #4
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Zones have natural soft spots and right now we're getting picked apart, granted by good QBs and WRs. Haslett has been super aggressive with the front 7 and might need to start dialing that back a bit.
this I'll agree with you on no doubt, the big D play isn't necessarily what a D should be aiming for every time, being timely and showing aggression when needed takes reading the O very well.. something that 2G has done with the Saints but lost with us it seems

I'm sold on the 3-4 defense, but not in doing so with whom we have
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:44 AM   #5
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Re: Suspect Safety Play

Doherty had a rough day but the corners were worse IMO. Rogers got abused by Walter. And why is Buchannon on this team? He's down right awful. Why did they keep him over Tryon and why is he playing over Barners? You know you're bad when Detroit (who has the worst defense I've ever seen) let him go.
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:57 AM   #6
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Doherty had a rough day but the corners were worse IMO. Rogers got abused by Walter. And why is Buchannon on this team? He's down right awful. Why did they keep him over Tryon and why is he playing over Barners? You know you're bad when Detroit (who has the worst defense I've ever seen) let him go.
Who are Doherty and Barners?
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:12 PM   #7
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Our defensive needs maybe greater after this season. I'm very curious to see how this offseason plays we could be losing Rogers & McIntosh to add to our defensive woes. Doughty does have major coverage issues but he, Horton & Landry are pretty decent SS. Someone explain why didn't we go after O.J Atogwe this offseason?
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:15 PM   #8
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Reed doughty just isn't great at the FS position. He's always impressed me in previous years at SS; he's a pretty good tackler and blitzer from that spot, but he has never really been good playing FS, and the last couple weeks that has really been exposed. Really, really miss #21.

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Being a DeMatha alum, I would love to see the Skins draft Kenny Tate as a tall/rangy/athletic FS.
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:29 PM   #10
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Being a DeMatha alum, I would love to see the Skins draft Kenny Tate as a tall/rangy/athletic FS.

DeMatha! I am alum myself. What class?
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DeMatha! I am alum myself. What class?
SkinsLove - I'm Scott Campbell, Class of '82. I also had two brothers there, Chris ('84) and Kevin ('87). I see you're from Bowie - we grew up in Pointer Ridge!
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Re: Suspect Safety Play

Reed is trash, has been since I can remember. He's mediocre at best. What he did yesterday pissed me off beyond belief - in fact, I'm still pissed.

How do you stand there and just watch the #1 WR in the league go up for the ball and not even attempt to deflect it or pick it off. If anything it looked like his ass was ducking out of the way. Get your arm up in there and rip his arm down so it falls.

I mean if he would have tried, then I wouldn't be so pissed.
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Reed is trash, has been since I can remember. He's mediocre at best. What he did yesterday pissed me off beyond belief - in fact, I'm still pissed.

How do you stand there and just watch the #1 WR in the league go up for the ball and not even attempt to deflect it or pick it off. If anything it looked like his ass was ducking out of the way. Get your arm up in there and rip his arm down so it falls.

I mean if he would have tried, then I wouldn't be so pissed.
Reed is not trash, he's a pretty good SS, but you can't expect him to go one on one with the best WR in the league. Including their verticals, AJ probably has 8" on doughty. Coverage has always been his weakness, because he's just not fast enough or able to contest balls wig athletic receivers. But he's always been solid in run support, and you can't say he didn't try on that ball. You can't really place blame anyone, it was simply exploiting a mismatch.
At least he looked better than whoever that Dallas defender was who gave up a jump ball in the endzone vs the bears haha.

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Re: Suspect Safety Play

I honestly don't feel he tried hard enough. I know it was a mismatch, but looking at the replay it looks more like he duck out of the way. I'm sure I'm coming down on him hard, but I don't like him. He doesn't have the speed IMO.

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I honestly don't feel he tried hard enough. I know it was a mismatch, but looking at the replay it looks more like he duck out of the way. I'm sure I'm coming down on him hard, but I don't like him. He doesn't have the speed IMO.

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Doughty is not the fastest or most athletic guy on the field. Hell, he's probably not among the top half in either category. But to say he didn't try hard enough seems BS to me. The only reason this guy is on the field is that he "tries". If he had the talent of a Haynesworth, he would be a f'ing beast. With all the adversity he has overcome, for him to be on the field at all is impressive.

Doughty was in the right place at the right time, tried to make a play but got beaten by a player who probably has twice as much talent as RD and just as much heart. As Matty said, to make Doughty the scapegoat is just the fashionable thing to do right now.

Buchanon got fooled on the pass and broke off coverage early. Even if Buchanon had bracketed him, I am not convinced, given the ball placement, AJ doesn't make that catch.
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