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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Detroit area
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Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
Reid is history in a couple seasons. Vick will revert to Atlanta form soon enough and then you will have an inefficient Kolb trying to take over late in the season. Mike has upgraded his passing ability, but that isn't saying much, since his last season in ATL he barely would hit the 100 yd passing mark, trying to do his Barry Sanders impersonation. Neither is beating Detroit such a great feat, especially since the Lions did comeback.
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Burke, VA
Age: 49
Posts: 287
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Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
Has anyone remotely considered the possibility that Vick was actually changed in prison? I can tell you (not from direct experience, but through friends) that being stuck in a cell for more than a year can really change your perspective on life and on utilizing your chances. Admittedly, some guys don't change, but some really do.
I'm starting to think that he actually changed his attitude toward his career and is actually focused and trying to be a better overall player vs. just relying on his god-given ability. I see a lot of folks talking about how he's going to revert back to his "old self". I'm not so sure...this isn't just a guy who switched teams, he literally had a life changing event, and I'm starting to think he's the real deal. Of course I reserve the right to change me mind, but his decision making right now looks WAY better than I ever saw it when he was with Atlanta. He's just not making stupid throws right now. As others have said, who would you rather play against right now, Vick or Kolb? There-in-lies the decision to stick with Vick as the starter IMO. |
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The Starter
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,525
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Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
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I don't think he has changed at all.................. |
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Age: 59
Posts: 21,744
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Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
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The Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,198
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Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
Not concerened at all (although I do miss a guy like ST or Lavar who wouldn't let Vick run wild ) but Vick's accuracy is average at best, Kolb is nothing special. Thanks Andy for sending your franchise QB to us... I'll sit back and watch this Vick/Kolb experiment blow up in your face!
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Pro Bowl
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,052
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Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
So where's that guy who pulled the race card?
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Quietly Dominating the East
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Naples, Florida
Posts: 10,675
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Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
Vick is a bad guy...bad character..like defective. He is also a very talented athlete. Prison won't change a flawed character. But it may make him NOT want to repeat similar offenses so he won't have to go back.
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
I agree, anyone who takes joy in killing innocent animals would qualify as having a questionable character. I wouldn't stop at dogs however, I would extend that assement to those who hunt for sport also.
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Special Teams
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Burke, VA
Age: 49
Posts: 287
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Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
I wasn't even talking about the legal issues, which to me are irrelevant to Vick the football player...I'm talking about a guy who never had to work for anything on the football field (and never did). He relied on his genetic talent to cruise into a lucrative pro career. When that got taken away, I think he woke up to the reality that he's going to have to work at football from here on out.
His skills combined with a desire to better himself on the football field should scare any opposing defense. Plus, not playing for the last couple years means his football age is only like 27 from a wear and tear standpoint. Only time will tell I suppose... |
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Quietly Dominating the East
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Naples, Florida
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Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
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http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...icts-vick.html
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Naega jeil jal naga
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 40
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Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
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Hail Raiser
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Age: 53
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Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
From a pure football perspective (and that's all that really matters here) I agree 100% with Reid's decision.
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 22,379
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Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
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I don't know right now who plays the Eagles next, but it will be interested to see Vick going against a good team that has the chance to gameplan against him and see some tape on his play. Still, a Stafford-less Lions put up a fight against the Eagles. I get the feeling that there may be some internal conflict over this situation. This was supposed to be Kolb's team, but I'm sure someone (either Reid or the FO) made the case for Vick (which is not hard to do given the results.
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Bethesda, MD
Age: 38
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Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
Another perspective to look at this from is what the Eagles plan to do down the road. Sure Vick looks pretty good right now (albeit against the Lions), but do the eagles really look at Vick as their quarterback of the future? Is this a situation where Andy Reid's hand is being forced to start Vick, and as soon as he messes up, it's Kolb's team again?
From a management perspective, I would try and get my young quarterback as many games under his belt as possible. Yeah he looked pretty bad the first game, but can you really judge a quarterback on one game against a pretty good defense? Control of the locker room notwithstanding, I would start Kolb until midseason, and if he still isn't cutting it, THEN put Vick in. It's nice to know Vick's a capable backup, and potential starter, but you have to give the guy you've invested so much time and money in a chance to be what you drafted him to be - your franchise quarterback. |
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Playmaker
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,471
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Re: Andy Reid names Michael Vick as team's starting quarterback
I don't know but I think this makes them a better team and was the only logical decision. I mean did anyone see the ineptitude that was Kevin Kolb vs Green Bay? Vick played pretty damn well against the GB defense and they're not slouches. Last week was against Detroit, an improving team, and he put up plus 30 pts. I can't stand him because of his past but you have to admit Vick at qb makes Philly a stronger team right now. I think Reid going with Kolb could have cost him the locker room.
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