ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar

Monkeydad · 10-15-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

I love busting the chops of all of the Cowboy's fans that are front runners. They are all quiet now. Love it. Where is the Cowboy fan that used to come on this sight? Lucy? You got some splaining to do.
If you are a Dallas Cowboy fan and you do not live or ever lived in Texas or ever played for Dallas or do not even have family that lives in Texas...then you are front runner. Look in the mirror...that's right...you!...you are a front runner.
One of my friends here at work is a Dallas Cowboy fan and a NY Yankee fan. HA! What a joke.

Bet he's a Lakers fan too.

And Duke.

LavaRnChad · 10-15-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by scowan

Matty you are right......Jerry will never give up control, like Dan Snyder now has done. Jerry will always think he is smarter than the guy or guys he hires. If it ever becomes a question of Jerry hiring a bright GM or coach, Jerry probably wont hire the guy. I think he is a little like a young Al Davis. Also working against Jerry hiring a guy and taking a back seat is the fact that Jerry won Super Bowls early when he had control. His Ego is too big to let go of the controls.

Jerry Jones won't give up control because his method brought him 3 SB rings. Snyder had to change his method because he didn't accomplish ****, and the team actually got worse during his ownership. Snyder had no choice but to change.

CRedskinsRule · 10-15-2010, 11:55 AM

Gurode is the bigger loss, they don't have a backup center and would have to move their starting RG over. I can't believe how many parallels you can find between the Skins of last year and Cowboys this year. They have put up better stats that's for sure, but so many things there are just outta whack. I hope JJ sees the stats and refuses to back out from his position.

firstdown · 10-15-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

If Jerry would just hire a real coach and GM, and step out of the way, they might be dangerous.

Sounds familiar huh?

I also thought this pargraph sounded familiar:

You cannot make losing easy or acceptable, which is what I believe Phillips has done. He has created a culture at Valley Ranch in which he insulates everybody from criticism, never singles anybody out for blame, refuses to hold players accountable and has convinced his team that the media is the cause of any problems. When Leonard Davis admitted he is at fault for playing badly and was deservedly, albeit belatedly, benched, Phillips soothed him with praise, referring to him as a Pro Bowl player and returning him to his starting job.

MTK · 10-15-2010, 01:02 PM

Yeah how about the part about certain star players not being available for post game interviews after a L? Accountability is apparently very overrated there.

CRedskinsRule · 10-15-2010, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LavaRnChad

Jerry Jones won't give up control because his method brought him 3 SB rings. Snyder had to change his method because he didn't accomplish ****, and the team actually got worse during his ownership. Snyder had no choice but to change.

Well realistically, the 3 SB rings were a carry over effect, and Jimmy Johnson had a LOT to do with them. I would think not having a playoff win for 14 or 15 (or whatever it was) would represent getting worse under JJ also. He doesn't see that because of his very early success. If one good thing came out of the last decade it was the (hopefully permanent) realization by DS that a football team is better off run by professionals and not the owner.

Alvin Walton · 10-15-2010, 01:18 PM

Ruhskins · 10-15-2010, 01:20 PM

As much as I hate the Cowboys, and I do enjoy seeing them getting criticized by the media (for once), it is unfortunately early in the season and any team can turn it around. I will be much happier when they are 1-9 or 2-8 and well out of playoff contention.

dblanch66 · 10-15-2010, 01:25 PM

Obnoxious. Overrated. Over-hyped. OVER.
Dallas Sucks.

hooskins · 10-15-2010, 01:44 PM

Ed Werner makes some points but is really writing this from his own selfish perspective. To him the heroes are the guys who talk to him, and allow him to get more material for his articles? That's a dumb way to judge which players from the Cowboys have their heads on straight and which ones don't.

It doesn't matter if you shy from the media IMO, just perform.

CrustyRedskin · 10-15-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

As much as I hate the Cowboys, and I do enjoy seeing them getting criticized by the media (for once), it is unfortunately early in the season and any team can turn it around. I will be much happier when they are 1-9 or 2-8 and well out of playoff contention.

Well said.

GTripp0012 · 10-15-2010, 01:58 PM

I'm not really sure about the "good ol days" angle of the article. Were things really better under Parcells? They made the postseason twice, went 0-2, and failed to win the division.

Parcells contributed because he put legitimate offensive talent on the roster without a lot of high picks. But Wade has arguably contributed more by developing that first round defensive talent that was ticketed for bust-city.

You can compare their records: Parcells' "accountability" didn't bring Dallas any more wins than Wade's "aw-shucks" attitude.

53Fan · 10-15-2010, 02:04 PM

The Redskins on top of the NFC East...the Cowgirls suck...it's early...but life is good.

saden1 · 10-15-2010, 02:43 PM

The Cowboys suck because Romo sucks. Romo sucks because their offensive line sucks. Their offensive line sucks because their coaching sucks. Their coaching sucks because Jerry Jones sucks. Cowboys suck.

CRedskinsRule · 10-15-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

The Cowboys suck because Romo sucks. Romo sucks because their offensive line sucks. Their offensive line sucks because their coaching sucks. Their coaching sucks because Jerry Jones sucks. Cowboys suck.

eloquently put

10-15-2010, 11:55 AM	#33
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,429	Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar Gurode is the bigger loss, they don't have a backup center and would have to move their starting RG over. I can't believe how many parallels you can find between the Skins of last year and Cowboys this year. They have put up better stats that's for sure, but so many things there are just outta whack. I hope JJ sees the stats and refuses to back out from his position.

10-15-2010, 01:02 PM	#35
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar Yeah how about the part about certain star players not being available for post game interviews after a L? Accountability is apparently very overrated there. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-15-2010, 01:18 PM	#37
Alvin Walton Pro Bowl Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 5,741	Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968

10-15-2010, 01:20 PM	#38
Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,341	Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar As much as I hate the Cowboys, and I do enjoy seeing them getting criticized by the media (for once), it is unfortunately early in the season and any team can turn it around. I will be much happier when they are 1-9 or 2-8 and well out of playoff contention. __________________ R.I.P. #21

10-15-2010, 01:25 PM	#39
dblanch66 The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 58 Posts: 1,176	Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar Obnoxious. Overrated. Over-hyped. OVER. Dallas Sucks. __________________ The eyes are the groin of the head

10-15-2010, 01:44 PM	#40
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar Ed Werner makes some points but is really writing this from his own selfish perspective. To him the heroes are the guys who talk to him, and allow him to get more material for his articles? That's a dumb way to judge which players from the Cowboys have their heads on straight and which ones don't. It doesn't matter if you shy from the media IMO, just perform. __________________ Vacancy

10-15-2010, 01:58 PM	#42
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar I'm not really sure about the "good ol days" angle of the article. Were things really better under Parcells? They made the postseason twice, went 0-2, and failed to win the division. Parcells contributed because he put legitimate offensive talent on the roster without a lot of high picks. But Wade has arguably contributed more by developing that first round defensive talent that was ticketed for bust-city. You can compare their records: Parcells' "accountability" didn't bring Dallas any more wins than Wade's "aw-shucks" attitude. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

10-15-2010, 02:04 PM	#43
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar The Redskins on top of the NFC East...the Cowgirls suck...it's early...but life is good. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

10-15-2010, 02:43 PM	#44
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar The Cowboys suck because Romo sucks. Romo sucks because their offensive line sucks. Their offensive line sucks because their coaching sucks. Their coaching sucks because Jerry Jones sucks. Cowboys suck. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

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