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Old 01-18-2011, 01:04 PM   #1
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Aw, shucks.

I've read about and watched game videos of a bunch of draftable QB's. Ponder is the one who seems to me most likely to be a solid starter. Not only that, I think he will be ready to play as early as any other QB in this class. What he doesn't have can be remedied in the film or weight rooms, whereas other QB's in this class seem to have drawbacks which are more difficult to fix.

I say use the #10 pick on a defensive beast (like Von Miller or Cameron Jordan) or trade down to still grab a defensive beast later in the first round. Then draft Ponder in a later round.

Well like I've mentioned before, I watched him live in person and he looked RIDICULOUSLY BAD here in Norman.. Made bad decisions under pressure and very avg arm strength, yea you need smarts but sometimes that just isn't enough in the Pros.
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Old 01-18-2011, 05:22 PM   #2
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Aw, shucks.

I've read about and watched game videos of a bunch of draftable QB's. Ponder is the one who seems to me most likely to be a solid starter. Not only that, I think he will be ready to play as early as any other QB in this class. What he doesn't have can be remedied in the film or weight rooms, whereas other QB's in this class seem to have drawbacks which are more difficult to fix.

I say use the #10 pick on a defensive beast (like Von Miller or Cameron Jordan) or trade down to still grab a defensive beast later in the first round. Then draft Ponder in a later round.
Copy cat. lol
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Old 01-18-2011, 11:06 AM   #3
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Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft

LOVE trading down.........
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Old 01-18-2011, 11:24 AM   #4
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LOVE trading down.........
I agree. I think that if you take one of these QB's at 10 you are not getting the value you should be getting at that pick, you are simply reaching for a need no matter the talent level. I have been adamant in my dislike for Locker. I think he has the potential to be a big bust. I think Cam Newton is an even higher risk.

If we were a smart drafting team, which we obviously haven't been in the past but hopefully are moving in the right direction, we will try our best to trade down. I think with as many holes in this team as we have we need as many picks as possible. If a trade down is not possible, you take a defensive talent like Von Miller, as I also have been saying, to compliment Orakpo, and draft a QB like Ponder or Dalton in a later round.

Not that I am an expert but I think Ponder and Dalton could very well be best tooled for what Shanny is looking for. I could live with Locker in the later rounds, however I wouldn't be pleased. I would be very upset if we took Cam Newton. He has extremely limited experience at a high level. Yes he is a flashy play maker, but I don't think that wins championships. We don't have time for another big project. I know some people say, yeah well he was in JUCO playing, but there is a reason JUCO kids play there and not for a D-I school.
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Old 01-18-2011, 12:29 PM   #5
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Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft

Scout take on Cam: “the structure of that offense made him look more accurate than he is. It’s all play-action based, throwing to wide open receivers, with bubble screens that pad his numbers." classic spread-bust pick + character issues? Pass
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Old 01-18-2011, 03:33 PM   #6
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Scout take on Cam: “the structure of that offense made him look more accurate than he is. It’s all play-action based, throwing to wide open receivers, with bubble screens that pad his numbers." classic spread-bust pick + character issues? Pass

I think this about covers it.


Words that make you cringe when talking about drafting QBs in the first round.

"potential"
"high ceiling"
"upside"

.lol.....stay away from that shit, stick with guys that are polished and have done it several years at college.
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:06 PM   #7
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Scout take on Cam: “the structure of that offense made him look more accurate than he is. It’s all play-action based, throwing to wide open receivers, with bubble screens that pad his numbers." classic spread-bust pick + character issues? Pass
If it was that easy how come Auburns last QB couldn't do it? Or if it was so easy, how come teams with more talented players didn't switch to the Auburn offense and get these easy receptions and wide open recievers?
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:57 PM   #8
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Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft

Ponder battled a painful elbow injury for much of the year. He doesn't have a cannon, but his arm strength is underrated
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:28 PM   #9
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Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft

We need to look at the defense diagonally...haven't heard anything recently.

Warpath Plug: Matt Bowen will be attending the Senior Bowl and afterward we'll hold a Q & A with him about who drew the Redskins interest and what he thinks we should do. Stay tuned for that.
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We need to look at the defense diagonally...haven't heard anything recently.

Warpath Plug: Matt Bowen will be attending the Senior Bowl and afterward we'll hold a Q & A with him about who drew the Redskins interest and what he thinks we should do. Stay tuned for that.
Sweet! Can't wait for that. The last Q&A was a good one.
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Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft

Is it a coincidence Cam Newton co-signed Bus Cook and this company as his agents?!

ESPN: Cam Newton hires agent Bus Cook
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Is it a coincidence Cam Newton co-signed Bus Cook and this company as his agents?!

ESPN: Cam Newton hires agent Bus Cook
What's the coincidence?
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What's the coincidence?
The co-company hired is D.C. area based agency... I'm sure it's nothing, but just thought it was interesting.
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The co-company hired is D.C. area based agency... I'm sure it's nothing, but just thought it was interesting.
I see. Well Perennial was already repping his brother anyway, wouldn't read too much into it
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I see. Well Perennial was already repping his brother anyway, wouldn't read too much into it
Sometimes its just fun to speculate for no particular reason at all.
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