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[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

They should show Cerrato on their jumbotron. If those freaky eyes staring at you all game long doesnt make you walk out of the stadium, then SD will never be able to get rid of their fans.

AJ Smith has done his best Vinny Cerrato impression in my opinion. Although I don't think anyone could f up as much as Vinny.

[Chico23231]

its not about fans or football. the move to LA is all bout scrilla

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

And you have made that point continually throughout every discussion on the Warpath. I disagree and but am not going to go through a play by play and discuss why. Their are ample talking heads citing to both sides of the issue. To me, it is clear that reasonable, knowledgeable people disagree on the issue. Fine. To me as a non-film guy, who isn't in on the coaching discussions, I just don't see him as the consumate evil and don't believe a change will necessarily improve the defense. It could make it worse - not sure how, but not completely discarding that possibility either.

Just tired of hearing the same thing, over and over and over and over ...

Actually two threads. I responded to your mentioning of Haslett on this particular thread. Minus the gameday threads im not one to start bashing anything out of the blue including Haslett because it is what it is probably for the remainder of the season. Ive actually defended the FO several times by saying that we couldnt adress every issue on this team in three years because of what this regime inherited. I believe the secondary will be the primary concern this off season. I also believe Haz is in the midst of his last coaching job of his lack luster nfl career.


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[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Actually two threads. I responded to your mentioning of Haslett on this particular thread. Minus the gameday threads im not one to start bashing anything out of the blue including Haslett because it is what it is probably for the remainder of the season. Ive actually defended the FO several times by saying that we couldnt adress every issue on this team in three years because of what this regime inherited. I believe the secondary will be the primary concern this off season. I also believe Haz is in the midst of his last coaching job of his lack luster nfl career.

Okay. I also believe the secondary will be the primary issue. I disagree that this is Haslett's last stop. I agree he probably will not get another DC gig anytime soon, but he may. If Norv can keep getting rehired as a head coach, not sure why a lackluster career precludes Haslett's rehire - and I agree his career has been lack luster. It also, however, has not been horrible. He has had some success in some places.

Again, it seems to me that there have been a couple of games where Haslett has taken the lemons and created lemonade (Minnesota jumps to mind). On top of that, but for the last play, this D was doing well in holding NYG within reach. As I pointed out, the vaunted SF defense gave up 26 points to the Giants with one fewer turnover by the SF offense. M. Williams starts his turn earlier and doesn't stand around watching Cruz sprint towards him and maybe we are having a different discussion.

So we are clear, I think Haslett has made mistakes, several.

Is it your opinion that, particularly with the backfield he has done nothing to enhance the D's chances to succeed?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Okay. I also believe the secondary will be the primary issue. I disagree that this is Haslett's last stop. I agree he probably will not get another DC gig anytime soon, but he may. If Norv can keep getting rehired as a head coach, not sure why a lackluster career precludes Haslett's rehire - and I agree his career has been lack luster. It also, however, has not been horrible. He has had some success in some places.

Again, it seems to me that there have been a couple of games where Haslett has taken the lemons and created lemonade (Minnesota jumps to mind). On top of that, but for the last play, this D was doing well in holding NYG within reach. As I pointed out, the vaunted SF defense gave up 26 points to the Giants with one fewer turnover by the SF offense. M. Williams starts his turn earlier and doesn't stand around watching Cruz sprint towards him and maybe we are having a different discussion.

So we are clear, I think Haslett has made mistakes, several.

Is it your opinion that, particularly with the backfield he has done nothing to enhance the D's chances to succeed?

I think this has been completely lost (understandably so) in the post NYG/Skins game discussions.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Okay. I also believe the secondary will be the primary issue. I disagree that this is Haslett's last stop. I agree he probably will not get another DC gig anytime soon, but he may. If Norv can keep getting rehired as a head coach, not sure why a lackluster career precludes Haslett's rehire - and I agree his career has been lack luster. It also, however, has not been horrible. He has had some success in some places.

Again, it seems to me that there have been a couple of games where Haslett has taken the lemons and created lemonade (Minnesota jumps to mind). On top of that, but for the last play, this D was doing well in holding NYG within reach. As I pointed out, the vaunted SF defense gave up 26 points to the Giants with one fewer turnover by the SF offense. M. Williams starts his turn earlier and doesn't stand around watching Cruz sprint towards him and maybe we are having a different discussion.

So we are clear, I think Haslett has made mistakes, several.

Is it your opinion that, particularly with the backfield he has done nothing to enhance the D's chances to succeed?

Norv's employment is as big a mystery as Hasletts to me.
As for the Vikings game our D played well for three quarters. Although Ponder has been very off as of late so not sure how impressed I am with that. As for the niners giving up more points than the Redskins I hear you and I want to believe there is something there but I can't. If you start playing connect the dots like that in sports you will discover that the Redskins are actually the best team in the NFL over the last twenty yeArs because we have played the Patriots better than they have played the Giants who lost to the Eagles who barely beat the Lions etc etc etc.
As per your question on Haslett - No I cannot say he enhances anything. I mean yes he has lemons, but the stats say they are playing like lemons. So im not sure where I see enhancement unless Im looking at the first three quarters against the Vikings and Christian Ponder who are on a downswing rite now. If I look at the passrush - well it was poor for the tiny window with Rak and I cant say Carriker is such an impactful player. He is good but not great. Either way I see no enhancement of the pass rush. Than there is our run D. Well if you read between those numbers we are ranked a little high simply because teams dont run the ball on us. Why would they? Our yards per carry is not great, and so that tells me when they run on us they are successful. The Falcons game was our best game against the run , but that being said we have a much more capable front seven than secondary even without Rak and Carriker so we should be able to handle the run due to personell anyway?


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[Ruhskins]

Tough loss for the Cowgirls, a break for us when we play them

Sources -- Sean Lee of Dallas Cowboys may need season ending toe surgery - ESPN Dallas

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

They should show Cerrato on their jumbotron. If those freaky eyes staring at you all game long doesnt make you walk out of the stadium, then SD will never be able to get rid of their fans.

Lololololol


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[skinsfaninok]

Anyone see E60? Cortland Finnegan is completely different off the field

[SmootSmack]

Refs will use pink flags at the Dolphins Jets game on Sunday

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Refs will use pink flags at the Dolphins Jets game on Sunday

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Refs will use pink flags at the Dolphins Jets game on Sunday

Are you serious? That sounds like it could cause problems, especially for QBs on "free plays" where the defense jumps offsides. They're used to seeing and looking for yellow in that situation...not pink, which is going to be plastered all over the stadium, stands and players around him.

It's officially gone too far. It could actually affect the play on the field now.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Are you serious? That sounds like it could cause problems, especially for QBs on "free plays" where the defense jumps offsides. They're used to seeing and looking for yellow in that situation...not pink, which is going to be plastered all over the stadium, stands and players around him.

It's officially gone too far. It could actually affect the play on the field now.

A child made the suggestion to Goodell and so they're deciding to honor it for one game.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Are you serious? That sounds like it could cause problems, especially for QBs on "free plays" where the defense jumps offsides. They're used to seeing and looking for yellow in that situation...not pink, which is going to be plastered all over the stadium, stands and players around him.

It's officially gone too far. It could actually affect the play on the field now.

You really dont like the color pink do you?


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[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by punch it in

You really dont like the color pink do you?


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Actually since my daughter was born, I'm kinda into the color. I wouldn't wear it but I buy plenty of pink stuff...painted her room pink, etc.

BUT, this marketing scheme masked as charity is getting ridiculous. One week, that's fine, but a quarter of the season, every season...now we're going to use pink flags that might screw up a play or two?

Want to test my opinion on the pink gear in NFL games? Get a player to wear something pink in December...he'll get fined for a uniform violation.

It was actually a cool idea the first time they did it. Now it's getting old and just makes the teams look ridiculous...good intent or not. The novelty has worn off. Now it might interfere with a game. How far will we go? Why don't we honor any other cause? How about a week in September where the teams wear camouflage stuff to honor the military? What about heart disease, that kills more women than cancer? What about men's causes? It was a great idea the first time, now it just looks more and more like a way to sell more merchandise and bring in more female fans because they're pushing it so hard. I like how MLB did it. Once, on Mother's Day since all teams weren't playing in October back then, the players could use a pink bat. Simple, same level of "caring" but doesn't look gaudy or like a marketing scheme.

It's not the color, the cause or anything else...just the money part of it. I'm sure EVERY penny that Nike and the NFL makes on every pink shirt, hat, jersey, etc isn't being donated. They're taking their cut.