Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss

SKINSnCANES · 03-05-2005, 02:44 PM

all the Miami talk is usually becuase of me, youll get used to it, heh.

Man, if they threw in Vilma.... That would definitly solve our middle linebacker problem thats for sure. Hell I would hvae given them our 9th pick in the draft to add vilma to the deal

mooby · 03-05-2005, 02:48 PM

i don't think the jets would trade jonathan vilma after he earned defensive rookie of the year. he's too valuable. i wouldn't mind if we used a second or third round pick on a middle linebacker, just as long as michael barrow doesnt play. that guy was a bust. so was mark brunell. ugh.

mooby · 03-05-2005, 02:52 PM

yeah patrick ramsey should take a cue from peyton manning and work really hard with his receivers in his spare time so they can develop chemistry.

Skinsfanatic · 03-05-2005, 03:07 PM

Maybe now we can trade Brunell for a conditional 7th round pick. 7th if they keep him, we'll give the team that takes him a 7th if they don't.

wolfeskins · 03-05-2005, 03:07 PM

:headbange it's a good trade for the skins because it was either lose coles and get nothing, keep coles and have a hurt and unhappy wideout, or trade coles for another player. i'm glad we got another player and moss is a pretty good wr. we really have some guys to get down the field now and patten is a very consistant player, he doesn't drop passes like gardner did. now it would be nice if the skins could draft a big wr. we've got a sanders and a clark now we need a monk.

mooby · 03-05-2005, 03:13 PM

i heard somewhere that the redskins can't trade mark brunell because of salary cap issues. damn him. what a bust.

Skinsfanatic · 03-05-2005, 03:19 PM

My understanding is that trading Brunell would be like trading Coles, it would equal his release fee, about 7 million dollars. If this is the case, we could trade him (or cut him for all I care) bite the bullet this year, draft a quartback late in the draft (7th round or so) and let "Timmy" be the backup to Ramsey. I love Timmy anyway, I would rather have him on the field than Brunell if Ramsey got hurt. And, this would save us millions next year.

wolfeskins · 03-05-2005, 03:22 PM

brunnell aint going nowhere, so you guys might as well quit dreaming. but it would be nice.

maxknee · 03-05-2005, 03:27 PM

moss didnt live up to the hype. its sad but in my opinion its a lose-lose situation

offiss · 03-05-2005, 03:34 PM

I am glad it's done who know's with Cole's toe problem if he will ever be 100% we have a healthy reciever who is a special team's game breaker, Moss is a very nice addition, I also have to figure that Cole's signed off on the $5mil bonus because he recieved a new deal with the Jet's and another signing bonus, I still think we need a big physical reciever to go with these guy's I don't know if we have a true #1 at this point, but it does give us a little flexability come draft time nobody can hold us to the grindstone on any particular player.

offiss · 03-05-2005, 03:39 PM

Just read in another thread that we already paid him his salary bonus? If that's so I would have let him rot on our bench, kind of funny how he held up the deal with the Jet's now all of a sudden it's ok, I would like to see the conformation of that first, anybody know for sure?

DCopper04 · 03-05-2005, 03:32 PM

Cutting or trading Brunell is impossible for us now. Trading Coles has pushed us snug against the cap (I believe we have less than $3M in space now. Canuck, care to give us some exact numbers?) I think that we are now much more likely to trade down from #9, so that we can pay our selection a smaller SB. I predict that when the offseason is all said and done, we will be VERY close to the spending limit. I'm sure Gibbs will leave a little big of wiggle room to sign one or two players during the season (just in case Hall decides to get injured again) but we can't expect any more than that.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-05-2005, 03:38 PM

It's not that I hate the trade, it's just I think we could've gotten SOME kind of additional compensation (i.e. mid-round draft pick).

Dirtywater · 03-05-2005, 03:50 PM

Moss & Patten will be a nice addition to your team. Congrats!

wolfeskins · 03-05-2005, 03:53 PM

welcome to the warpath dirtywater. are you not a skins fan ?

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03-05-2005, 02:48 PM	#2
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,596	Re: Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss i don't think the jets would trade jonathan vilma after he earned defensive rookie of the year. he's too valuable. i wouldn't mind if we used a second or third round pick on a middle linebacker, just as long as michael barrow doesnt play. that guy was a bust. so was mark brunell. ugh. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

03-05-2005, 02:52 PM	#3
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,596	Re: Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss yeah patrick ramsey should take a cue from peyton manning and work really hard with his receivers in his spare time so they can develop chemistry. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

03-05-2005, 03:07 PM	#4
Skinsfanatic The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,393	Re: Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss Maybe now we can trade Brunell for a conditional 7th round pick. 7th if they keep him, we'll give the team that takes him a 7th if they don't.

03-05-2005, 03:07 PM	#5
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss :headbange it's a good trade for the skins because it was either lose coles and get nothing, keep coles and have a hurt and unhappy wideout, or trade coles for another player. i'm glad we got another player and moss is a pretty good wr. we really have some guys to get down the field now and patten is a very consistant player, he doesn't drop passes like gardner did. now it would be nice if the skins could draft a big wr. we've got a sanders and a clark now we need a monk.

03-05-2005, 02:44 PM	#1
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,455	Re: Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss all the Miami talk is usually becuase of me, youll get used to it, heh. Man, if they threw in Vilma.... That would definitly solve our middle linebacker problem thats for sure. Hell I would hvae given them our 9th pick in the draft to add vilma to the deal __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

03-05-2005, 03:13 PM	#6
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,596	Re: Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss i heard somewhere that the redskins can't trade mark brunell because of salary cap issues. damn him. what a bust. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

03-05-2005, 03:19 PM	#7
Skinsfanatic The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,393	Re: Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss My understanding is that trading Brunell would be like trading Coles, it would equal his release fee, about 7 million dollars. If this is the case, we could trade him (or cut him for all I care) bite the bullet this year, draft a quartback late in the draft (7th round or so) and let "Timmy" be the backup to Ramsey. I love Timmy anyway, I would rather have him on the field than Brunell if Ramsey got hurt. And, this would save us millions next year.

03-05-2005, 03:22 PM	#8
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss brunnell aint going nowhere, so you guys might as well quit dreaming. but it would be nice.

03-05-2005, 03:27 PM	#9
maxknee Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 19	Re: Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss moss didnt live up to the hype. its sad but in my opinion its a lose-lose situation

03-05-2005, 03:34 PM	#10
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	Re: Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss I am glad it's done who know's with Cole's toe problem if he will ever be 100% we have a healthy reciever who is a special team's game breaker, Moss is a very nice addition, I also have to figure that Cole's signed off on the $5mil bonus because he recieved a new deal with the Jet's and another signing bonus, I still think we need a big physical reciever to go with these guy's I don't know if we have a true #1 at this point, but it does give us a little flexability come draft time nobody can hold us to the grindstone on any particular player.

03-05-2005, 03:39 PM	#11
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	Re: Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss Just read in another thread that we already paid him his salary bonus? If that's so I would have let him rot on our bench, kind of funny how he held up the deal with the Jet's now all of a sudden it's ok, I would like to see the conformation of that first, anybody know for sure?

03-05-2005, 03:32 PM	#12
DCopper04 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 59	Re: Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss Cutting or trading Brunell is impossible for us now. Trading Coles has pushed us snug against the cap (I believe we have less than $3M in space now. Canuck, care to give us some exact numbers?) I think that we are now much more likely to trade down from #9, so that we can pay our selection a smaller SB. I predict that when the offseason is all said and done, we will be VERY close to the spending limit. I'm sure Gibbs will leave a little big of wiggle room to sign one or two players during the season (just in case Hall decides to get injured again) but we can't expect any more than that.

03-05-2005, 03:38 PM	#13
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss It's not that I hate the trade, it's just I think we could've gotten SOME kind of additional compensation (i.e. mid-round draft pick).

03-05-2005, 03:50 PM	#14
Dirtywater Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3	Re: Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss Moss & Patten will be a nice addition to your team. Congrats!

03-05-2005, 03:53 PM	#15
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss welcome to the warpath dirtywater. are you not a skins fan ?

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