RT and OL thread

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Won't be surprised if Polumbus is the day 1 starter. The zone game can take a while to get the timing down. Moses seems like a smart kid and he's got talent so you never know though. Hopefully he comes in hungry and works hard.

I agree, Gruden has said Moses has a lot of work to do.

[CRedskinsRule]

I am willing to bet, unless Moses looks lost in space, he will start. Polumbus can run block, but he can't create a pocket at all.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am willing to bet, unless Moses looks lost in space, he will start. Polumbus can run block, but he can't create a pocket at all.

That was my thinking as well.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am willing to bet, unless Moses looks lost in space, he will start. Polumbus can run block, but he can't create a pocket at all.

Start Game 1? I'd be surprised

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Start Game 1? I'd be surprised

Who starts first out of the rookies?

Id lean towards Long.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Who starts first out of the rookies?

Id lean towards Long.

OL only? Yeah I'd agree

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

OL only? Yeah I'd agree

No, Were you going Seastrunk?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Start Game 1? I'd be surprised

Day 1 will be Watt, Clowney, and Cushing against our OL. We all know Polumbus just can't handle that in pass blocking. I don't know that Moses can but (barring a terrible preseason) I believe the Skins will go with the trial by fire method for Moses.

Maybe not, but I just can't ever shake the comment by Gruden that when he was playing QB a missed block by his RT caused him to break his ankle - or something to that effect. When he watches Polumbus on film, he is going to see a guy that gets beat on the edge every single drop back. That means there will be a lot of chip blocks on that side, and if you have to give help, then imo go with the guy with more upside, and maybe he gets it. That would be Moses.

[TenandSix:Unacceptable]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am willing to bet, unless Moses looks lost in space, he will start. Polumbus can run block, but he can't create a pocket at all.

Well it certainly hasn't help that he had three other bums to the left of him.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

Well it certainly hasn't help that he had three other bums to the left of him.

I am talking about outside rush, not the middle. Many times Polumbus just got plain beat off the edge. That has nothing to do (or very little) with the 3 other bums.

[TenandSix:Unacceptable]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am talking about outside rush, not the middle. Many times Polumbus just got plain beat off the edge. That has nothing to do (or very little) with the 3 other bums.

I guess I'm thinking that a good coach can account for one, maybe two, average to below average linemen...not four.

[NC_Skins]

I wouldn't expect any of these OL to contribute this year unless there is an injury. I could see these guys replacing some of the guys next year, but not this year. In fact, beyond the kicker, I don't see really anybody from this years draft that will able to provide quality play this year.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

It kinda amazes me that after all this clamoring for OL, over 60% of the board thinks that Neither will start week one, or that no rookie will have an impact for us in their rookie season.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

It kinda amazes me that after all this clamoring for OL, over 60% of the board thinks that Neither will start week one, or that no rookie will have an impact for us in their rookie season.

Was there a poll on this?

If there was, put me in the minority. Jay Gruden outright stated that he thinks that Long will compete will a starting job. Coach Gruden said that Moses has a few more things to work on and it may take him a little longer to be ready to start than it will take Long.

Long has the advantage of having played his college ball in a similar system to the one Gruden employs. So, he (Long) says that he is picking it up quickly. According to Gruden, Long definitely has the physical tools.

Moses has more to learn about the system than Long does. Also, he needs to work on some techniques, For example, he plays a little high. So, it might take him a little longer to become a starter.

Now, this is strictly my own ignorant thoughts on Moses. You can say what you want about his flaws, but all he does is stonewall pass rushers. He is what you want physically, he's a smart guy who wants to succeed, and he plays hard. I think he definitely has a chance to surprise his coaches and start Game 1.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

It kinda amazes me that after all this clamoring for OL, over 60% of the board thinks that Neither will start week one, or that no rookie will have an impact for us in their rookie season.

I was one of the many clamoring for O-line, and we took two relatively high. So I'm happy now, regardless of whether or not they're Day 1 starters. Our O-line, with those two draft picks and the additions of Lavuao and McGlynn, is much better. But if Moses starts sometime during the season it wouldn't surprise me, and I do expect Long to start at some point. But even if neither are Day 1 starters, they'll still have an impact as depth. I don't want to put either one out there if they're not ready.

If neither Moses nor Long look like the best options at RG and RT, do you still want to have them start? Wouldn't that be change just for the sake of change? Except worse, because it would be an inexperienced rookie you'd be throwing to the dogs.