2015 Week 9 Offensive Line Starters

[Schneed10]

I do think Kouandjio takes out Lauvao as long as Kouandjio is healthy. I think Chester holds off Long somehow and keeps his job. I think Long will be a disappointment all said and done.

McLeRib gets cut in training camp.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I do think Kouandjio takes out Lauvao as long as Kouandjio is healthy. I think Chester holds off Long somehow and keeps his job. I think Long will be a disappointment all said and done.

McLeRib gets cut in training camp.

While I am inclined to agree, I really hope that Long can beat out Chester. I really hate that guy but we have nothing better right now.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

While I am inclined to agree, I really hope that Long can beat out Chester. I really hate that guy but we have nothing better right now.

Might happen. Who knows. There will be a different run-blocking scheme this year so it really comes down to who can adapt well.

Chester has experience, have to like his chances at figuring things out. And it's not like Chester is small, he's listed 6'3" 303. But everyone at Redskins park knows they're switching to a power scheme. Chester (and everyone else) has 4 months to add 10 pounds of muscle.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Might happen. Who knows. There will be a different run-blocking scheme this year so it really comes down to who can adapt well.

Chester has experience, have to like his chances at figuring things out. And it's not like Chester is small, he's listed 6'3" 303. But everyone at Redskins park knows they're switching to a power scheme. Chester (and everyone else) has 4 months to add 10 pounds of muscle.

I think this is very true. Our O-line is being asked to be a different type of line than in the past. Plus they now have a great O-line coach who is very good at developing/molding players.
You never know who can benefit the most from these significant changes, it may be someone completely unexpected.

Spencer Long
Morgan Moses
Tom Compton at guard
Chris Chester
Xavier Nixon
Josh LeRibeus

We have some size and numbers as backups at O-line. What if a Tom Compton or Xavier Nixon suddenly blossomed? Or an UDFA?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I think this is very true. Our O-line is being asked to be a different type of line than in the past. Plus they now have a great O-line coach who is very good at developing/molding players.
You never know who can benefit the most from these significant changes, it may be someone completely unexpected.

Spencer Long
Morgan Moses
Tom Compton at guard
Chris Chester
Xavier Nixon
Josh LeRibeus

We have some size and numbers as backups at O-line. What if a Tom Compton or Xavier Nixon suddenly blossomed? Or an UDFA?

I've pretty much lost all hope in McRib. He hasn't shown any sort of promise. And God help him if he shows up to training camp completely out of shape again.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I do think Kouandjio takes out Lauvao as long as Kouandjio is healthy. I think Chester holds off Long somehow and keeps his job. I think Long will be a disappointment all said and done.

McLeRib gets cut in training camp.

What have you seen, heard, or read about Long that makes you think he will be a bust?

I haven't seen any articles talking about how he is a lock to start; but I haven't seen anything negative since his draft evaluations.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

What have you seen, heard, or read about Long that makes you think he will be a bust?

I haven't seen any articles talking about how he is a lock to start; but I haven't seen anything negative since his draft evaluations.

Nothing recent. I'm drawing off three things:

1) Lauvao and Chester started all last season, who both were not very good, and Long never sniffed a starting spot. Foerster said at the time that he wasn't going to just throw the rookies in there, they're making too many mistakes in practice to be trusted in games.

2) Long was overdrafted. Most draft analysts (admittedly, for what they're worth) had him graded as a 5th round prospect.

3) That was a Bruce Allen draft operation, so I immediately question anybody drafted by the team at the time, fair or unfair. Maybe Long is one of the rare exceptions, but over the last five years we've found jack squat in the lower rounds. If it were McLoughan putting his stamp of approval on it, I'd feel much different. Reputation matters.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

2) Long was overdrafted. Most draft analysts (admittedly, for what they're worth) had him graded as a 5th round prospect.

Overview

Native Nebraskan. Walked on and redshirted in 2009. Did not see action in '10. Stepped into the lineup in '11, starting all 13 games at right guard. Played through a torn right meniscus in '12, starting all 14 games at RG. In '13, started the first six games at RG before tearing his right MCL against Purdue and undergoing season-ending surgery and did not work out at the NFL Scouting Combine because of it (medical exclusion). Elected not to lift at the combine because of an appendectomy. Team captain.
Analysis
Strengths
Very solidly built with a good frame. Good leg drive -- can create a push in the run game and position-sustain. Solid in pass protection -- good anchor, shadow and mirror. Good base and balance -- controls and steers defenders. Flashes some nastiness. Intense, competitive battler. Smart and instinctive. Lunchpail worker will do a lot of extras and is very ambitious and driven to succeed. Excellent weight-room strength -- can squat a small house. Good versatility -- has played inside and outside. Very tough and played much of final two seasons through knee injuries. Possessed the biggest hands of any offensive lineman at the combine.
Weaknesses
Average athlete. Is tight-ankled and heavy-legged -- lumbers to the second level. Struggled with the quickness of Minnesota's Ra'shede Hageman (though he was noticeably playing through a knee injury that required surgery and forced him to miss the rest of the season after leaving the Minnesota game). Labors to cut off the inside rush. Struggles to adjust and pick off linebackers and is not efficient pulling and trapping.
Draft Projection
Rounds 3-4
Bottom Line
Big, tough, physical, ornery blocker with starter-quality positional traits and intangible qualities. Is best in a phone booth, where he excels as a run and pass blocker, and is smart and savvy enough to contribute outside in emergency situations.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Overview

Native Nebraskan. Walked on and redshirted in 2009. Did not see action in '10. Stepped into the lineup in '11, starting all 13 games at right guard. Played through a torn right meniscus in '12, starting all 14 games at RG. In '13, started the first six games at RG before tearing his right MCL against Purdue and undergoing season-ending surgery and did not work out at the NFL Scouting Combine because of it (medical exclusion). Elected not to lift at the combine because of an appendectomy. Team captain.
Analysis
Strengths
Very solidly built with a good frame. Good leg drive -- can create a push in the run game and position-sustain. Solid in pass protection -- good anchor, shadow and mirror. Good base and balance -- controls and steers defenders. Flashes some nastiness. Intense, competitive battler. Smart and instinctive. Lunchpail worker will do a lot of extras and is very ambitious and driven to succeed. Excellent weight-room strength -- can squat a small house. Good versatility -- has played inside and outside. Very tough and played much of final two seasons through knee injuries. Possessed the biggest hands of any offensive lineman at the combine.
Weaknesses
Average athlete. Is tight-ankled and heavy-legged -- lumbers to the second level. Struggled with the quickness of Minnesota's Ra'shede Hageman (though he was noticeably playing through a knee injury that required surgery and forced him to miss the rest of the season after leaving the Minnesota game). Labors to cut off the inside rush. Struggles to adjust and pick off linebackers and is not efficient pulling and trapping.
Draft Projection
Rounds 3-4
Bottom Line
Big, tough, physical, ornery blocker with starter-quality positional traits and intangible qualities. Is best in a phone booth, where he excels as a run and pass blocker, and is smart and savvy enough to contribute outside in emergency situations.

Yeah CBS was the highest. Kiper McShay and Mayock all had him lower.

[Skip Bayless]

T. Williams, Kouandjio, lich, moses, scherrf

[MTK]

Williams, Lauvao, Kory L., Long, Sherff

[Ruhskins]

LT: Williams
LG: Long/Moses
C: Lich
RG: Lauvao
RT: Scherff

Don't remember what show specifically, but I heard in 980 that they believe Lauvao's best spot is at RG.

I hope this becomes a very good offensive line that can create a dominant running game, creating a team less dependent on the passing game.

If we become a run first team, a lot of pressure will be off whoever is at QB. Hopefully we can pull wins like Seattle does, where their QB only has to throw the ball 15-16 times a game.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

LT: Williams
LG: Long/Moses
C: Lich
RG: Lauvao
RT: Scherff

Don't remember what show specifically, but I heard in 980 that they believe Lauvao's best spot is at RG.

I hope this becomes a very good offensive line that can create a dominant running game, creating a team less dependent on the passing game.

If we become a run first team, a lot of pressure will be off whoever is at QB. Hopefully we can pull wins like Seattle does, where their QB only has to throw the ball 15-16 times a game.

I wondered that myself last year. Lauvao seems more of a RG than LG but we did not have someone better to play LG.
There are certain O-lineman that are incredibly better at one particular position than the others. in fact they could suck at all the other 4 positions but be really good at one.
I beginning to get the impression that is the case with Morgan Moses and the Left tackle position. At UVA he was a not so good RT, but then his senior year UVA moved him to LT and he blossomed. Last season he struggled at RT for us.
I wonder in a very hypothetical situation IF (and that is a big IF) Morgan Moses can be mentored enough and given more of a chance to play LT more that he could become a good NFL LT.

[DYoungJelly]

Redskins pick SMU guard Josh LeRibeus - The Washington Post

No they didn't (thank goodness), and nobody had him rated that high including McRib himself.

[SFREDSKIN]

I think Spencer Long fits with what McC is trying to build on the OL, he also has a streak of Nastiness and ornery.

Spencer Long Draft Profile – NFL.com