Skins v ravens GDT 7 pm Saturday

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

We need better CB depth, Danny Johnson is bad. What was wrong with Torry McTyer?

True. There are still some decent unsigned veteran corners available if RR is willing to spend the money on one of them.

Our backup safeties aren't so hot either. Jeremy Reeves might save us at that position. He's had a good preseason. Percy Butler has a lot to learn and Darrick Forrest has been invisible during the preseason.

[WCommandersfan99]

Just rewatched the game on replay. Thoughts below:

1) Liked what I saw from Howell. He has a strong arm, pretty accurate, and can make plays. Love the running dimension he brings.

2) Brown can get open but his hands are questionable at this point. Needs to be corrected asap if he as future. He had a few balls this week and at KC that could have been catches.

3) Still really like Jarret Patterson. Hope he makes the team. Love how he runs and it is evident he is a natural rb.

4) 2nd string oline terrible in pass protection. This could be a big problem quickly if we have to resort to them. They may want to look at new guys now.

5) 2nd string secondary got torched. Literally abused and embarrassed by Robinson. Think Chiefs will regret not keeping him. They ought to look at upgrading this unit also.

Very ready for regular season football. Jacksonville is a big opener for a lot of reasons. They will be ready.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

Just rewatched the game on replay. Thoughts below:

4) 2nd string oline terrible in pass protection. This could be a big problem quickly if we have to resort to them. They may want to look at new guys now.

They were the 3rd /4th string line, none of them are making the team aside from perhaps Chris Paul, but they would have to keep 10 OL even then

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

They were the 3rd /4th string line, none of them are making the team aside from perhaps Chris Paul, but they would have to keep 10 OL even then

Lol awesome. Thanks for reassuring me. Hope Paul can make an impact.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

Very ready for regular season football. Jacksonville is a big opener for a lot of reasons. They will be ready.

I live in Jacksonville now and I assure you they will come to D.C. ready to battle for a win. Doug Pederson is a favorite of mine as a HC because he is creative and bold as a HC/play-caller. I'd say it's a given that JDR will be out-coached. We have some advantages over the Jags, IMO, but it will still be a dog fight. Enough of that for now. I'm sure we'll have a thread on this topic in the near future.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I live in Jacksonville now and I assure you they will come to D.C. ready to battle for a win. Doug Pederson is a favorite of mine as a HC because he is creative and bold as a HC/play-caller. I'd say it's a given that JDR will be out-coached. We have some advantages over the Jags, IMO, but it will still be a dog fight. Enough of that for now. I'm sure we'll have a thread on this topic in the near future.

Totally agree. Still think Lawrence will have a great NFL career. Etienne is healthy now also along with a trove of free agents and draft picks. As good as he was in college, Meyer's tenure was disastrous in Jacksonville last year. This game really may come down to who wants it more imo.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

Just rewatched the game on replay. Thoughts below:

1) Liked what I saw from Howell. He has a strong arm, pretty accurate, and can make plays. Love the running dimension he brings.

2) Brown can get open but his hands are questionable at this point. Needs to be corrected asap if he as future. He had a few balls this week and at KC that could have been catches.

3) Still really like Jarret Patterson. Hope he makes the team. Love how he runs and it is evident he is a natural rb.

4) 2nd string oline terrible in pass protection. This could be a big problem quickly if we have to resort to them. They may want to look at new guys now.

5) 2nd string secondary got torched. Literally abused and embarrassed by Robinson. Think Chiefs will regret not keeping him. They ought to look at upgrading this unit also.

Very ready for regular season football. Jacksonville is a big opener for a lot of reasons. They will be ready.

Like as been said, it was our 3rd/4th stringers, but they did indeed look absolutely terrible... except for rookie Chris Paul, I thought in contrast he looked really good. For what it's worth without the All 22, he was the only Oline seemingly playing very well out there.
Our Oline depth is very solid.


Practice squad journey man WR Matt Cole made a couple of really tough catches, may help him find a spot somewhere, don't think there's room for him on this roster, or maybe we keep him on PS.

[That Guy]

howell looked good (2 really bad plays - big sack and should have been an int throw), surprised he did have that much of an issue dealing with all the long yardage due to penalties.

secondary guys that were playing are awful (they picked on 34 a lot, and he let them)

how many holding calls went against the team? 40? I've never seen so many 1st and 20s.

No injuries that I saw, so that's a win.

[Chief X_Phackter]

D Johnson fell for it, D Neal fell for it. Neither should be on the final 53.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

D Johnson fell for it, D Neal fell for it. Neither should be on the final 53.

Got a weak spot for Danny Johnson since he took time to take a picture with me during warm ups in 2018, and he's managed to play decently enough to hand in there, but yeah he's getting badly burnt every now and then.

[MTK]

I'd still rather have Heinicke to relieve Wentz during a game or for a spot start, but if Wentz was going to be out for an extended time then I'd hand it over to Howell.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'd still rather have Heinicke to relieve Wentz during a game or for a spot start, but if Wentz was going to be out for an extended time then I'd hand it over to Howell.

Agree - if Wentz goes down for an extended amount of time and the season seems out if reach then get Howell the experience but if Wentz is out for a limited time and the season is still in play let TH roll.

[irish]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Agree - if Wentz goes down for an extended amount of time and the season seems out if reach then get Howell the experience but if Wentz is out for a limited time and the season is still in play let TH roll.

I don't see why Howell cant spot play as easily as Heinicke can. Hopefully Wentz goes the distance but IMO the Heinicke thing has run its course.

[Chief X_Phackter]

The question for me is, does Howell's arm strength trump Heinicke's NFL experience, and his experience in this system? I don't think it does. So if we're talking about winning, I think that right now, if Wentz went down you would have to go to Heinicke.

Maybe as the season progresses, so does Howell - to the point where he gives the team a better chance to win than Heinicke. But if we're talking about right now, I don't think we're there.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Howell is better than Heinicke. Whoever is better should be No. 2 imo.