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Old 06-14-2005, 03:04 PM   #1
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Re: Further Proof of an Anti Redskins Bias in the National Media

Let's go Peter King Let's go!
Let's go Peter King Let's go!
man i love that guy's articles, i mean that is sports journalism at it's best. haha sike that bitch should retire for all i care. Okay, so he likes some of the things we've done, but lets face it, wherever there is criticism about the redskins, peter king isn't far to be found.
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Old 06-14-2005, 04:21 PM   #2
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Re: Further Proof of an Anti Redskins Bias in the National Media

I actually don't mind Peter King; he's not always right in his predictions (as noted above, but he's smart, articulate, and doesn't appear to have a real bias.

That's more than I can say for Len Pastabelly.
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Old 06-14-2005, 04:29 PM   #3
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Re: Further Proof of an Anti Redskins Bias in the National Media

I'm not so fond of Peter King's take on the Redskins, and the whole Art Monk thing... but I know his brother Bob pretty well (married an ex-roommate), and Bob is a great guy. In fact I'm camping with the other Kings in a few weeks at Hammonasset beach.
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Old 06-14-2005, 04:55 PM   #4
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Re: Further Proof of an Anti Redskins Bias in the National Media

Let's get off of Peter King for a second and look objectively at what we got from Morton. An average return man. He's slightly above average, but we signed him because he had one good game where he took back 2 kickoffs for TD's. Guess how many he got the rest of the year. 0. None. nada. Not so impressive is it?

I was never sold on him. King is a jackass. 2 games just by having Morton? Are you kidding me?
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Old 06-14-2005, 07:58 PM   #5
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Re: Further Proof of an Anti Redskins Bias in the National Media

Matty can we have a poll for BIGGEST IDIOT IN THE MEDIA:

Nominees:
Pasta Belly
King
Stephen A. Smith
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Re: Further Proof of an Anti Redskins Bias in the National Media

When you're a perenial loser you often think that the media has a bias against you.
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Old 06-14-2005, 08:44 PM   #7
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When you're a perenial loser you often think that the media has a bias against you.
No Daseal it happens to winners too........case in point NBA Spurs and Pistons..........no respect for either team that's for sure. The media is still agonizing why the Suns and Miami aren't in the finals
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Old 06-14-2005, 09:14 PM   #8
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No Daseal it happens to winners too........case in point NBA Spurs and Pistons..........no respect for either team that's for sure. The media is still agonizing why the Suns and Miami aren't in the finals
that's mainly cuz the two teams play painfully dull basketball. yeah they play basketball pretty much how it should be, except bowen grabbing people's arms , but pro basketball is also about entertainment and neither team really offers much excitement to those watching except for actual fans of the 2 specific teams.

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Who exactly are you calling perrenial losers? The Redskins aren't any kind of losers, bub, and no fan would say otherwise. If you disagree, feel free to go ahead and change your tag line to read:

"Apparently not having unrelenting optimism and calling the Redskins losers means you're not a fan."



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while the skins might not be exactly perrenial losers, they haven't exactly been on the winning side of too many games these past 10 years or so. Here's to hoping and praying this year is finally the year we can say the team starts to turn it around
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Old 06-14-2005, 10:08 PM   #9
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that's mainly cuz the two teams play painfully dull basketball. yeah they play basketball pretty much how it should be, except bowen grabbing people's arms , but pro basketball is also about entertainment and neither team really offers much excitement to those watching except for actual fans of the 2 specific teams.
You've never seen Manu Ginoboli..................
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Old 06-14-2005, 10:30 PM   #10
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that's mainly cuz the two teams play painfully dull basketball. yeah they play basketball pretty much how it should be, except bowen grabbing people's arms , but pro basketball is also about entertainment and neither team really offers much excitement to those watching except for actual fans of the 2 specific teams.
Hmmmmmmmm let's see Redskins #3 in defense, and I bet you find that painfully dull too.................
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Re: Further Proof of an Anti Redskins Bias in the National Media

Who exactly are you calling perrenial losers? The Redskins aren't any kind of losers, bub, and no fan would say otherwise. If you disagree, feel free to go ahead and change your tag line to read:

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Re: Further Proof of an Anti Redskins Bias in the National Media

2004 - 6-10
2003 - 5-11
2002 - 7-9
2001 - 8-8
2000 - 8-8
1999 - 10-6

5 seasons without going over 500 in a row. How exactly does that not make us a perenial loser? Phinehas - the records speak for themselves, the Redskins, for the past 5 years, have been losers. Some teams have to be losers, and those 5 years we were the losers. Does that mean we have tos tay losers? No.

How can you disagree with solid numbers. After loads of looking I estimate our all-time win %age to be just a bit over 500. Thanks mainly to Joe Gibbs. I can't find the exact number and my math, even for something so simple, isn't something I'd trust to base an argument on. It looked to be a bit over 500. If anyone can find the exact numbers I'd like to know.

The Redskins HAVE been losing, Phinehas. Why can't we as fans accept this. We act as if the media and fans of other teams should declare our dominance every year like we say we're going to have. I'm looking just as forward to that day as you are, but unfortunately, it hasn't quite come yet. Maybe this year.

Please, find anyone who's watched a game with me and haven't seen me cheer. Read all my posts and find me somewhere that I haven't believed Joe Gibbs will turn it around before he leaves DC. Your argument is based on false assumptions. In closing, maybe you should look at your team from another standpoint and not always the burgandy colored glasses. May help you get a more accurate picture of what tier the Redskins are currently grouped in todays NFL.

EDIT:505-462-27
thats from 1932-2004
I dont think that includes a 22-15 postseason record
so .5222222222 I didn't include ties because I wasn't sure how they were scored.

Also, here's a Peter King article - look at that bias go!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ng/01/09/mmqb/
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Old 06-14-2005, 10:05 PM   #13
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Re: Further Proof of an Anti Redskins Bias in the National Media

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2004 - 6-10
2003 - 5-11
2002 - 7-9
2001 - 8-8
2000 - 8-8
1999 - 10-6

5 seasons without going over 500 in a row. How exactly does that not make us a perenial loser? Phinehas - the records speak for themselves, the Redskins, for the past 5 years, have been losers.
Actually you're incorrect - the past three seasons we have been losers, an 8-8 record isn't really considered a losing season.
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Actually you're incorrect - the past three seasons we have been losers, an 8-8 record isn't really considered a losing season.
skinsguy is right .500 is not a losing season, its not winning either. I think to more adequately describe what you are trying to talk about is 5 straight seasons without a playoff appearance.
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Old 06-14-2005, 11:36 PM   #15
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skinsguy is right .500 is not a losing season, its not winning either. I think to more adequately describe what you are trying to talk about is 5 straight seasons without a playoff appearance.
We haven't had a good record since the 1990s - that's a pretty solid basis for criticizing the Redskins. The constant coaching turnover, the free agency binges, Danny's arrogance, and the tiff with the Washington Post are pretty good reasons for the media to poke fun at our expense.

I love the Redskins, but we haven't given the media any reason to do anything but doubt us and sneer at our woes. Like Gibbs said last year - "[the Redskins] are not going to silence the critics until we start winning games."
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