Gardner to Panthers

Redskins_P · 07-28-2005, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

Why are people whining about not getting what THEY think Gardner is/was worth when nobody offered it in the first place? If Gardner was worth a fourth rounder, heck if he was worth a 1st rounder, don't you think a team would have made the trade for him alot sooner?

Exactly. Thats what I'm trying to say. He's not even worth a 4th rounder.....so it doesn't matter that he got drafted in the 1st round. Like I said on my previous post -- HE NEVER LIVED UP TO HIS POTENTIAL

MTK · 07-28-2005, 10:59 AM

He's a talented guy that will probably frustrate the hell out of Panther fans all year.

But he's going to throw some killer parties! Crank up the drunk bus Carolina here comes 50/50!

manicd · 07-28-2005, 11:13 AM

Damn, the Panther fans are obviously living in a larger fantasy world than most of us. Check it out.

http://www.panthershuddle.com/newfor...ic.php?t=10930

MTK · 07-28-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by manicd

Damn, the Panther fans are obviously living in a larger fantasy world than most of us. Check it out.

http://www.panthershuddle.com/newfor...ic.php?t=10930

Oh lordy

I saw someone say their going to win the Super Bowl now, and another that said he was so excited he was shaking.

You've gotta be kidding me

BrudLee · 07-28-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by manicd

Damn, the Panther fans are obviously living in a larger fantasy world than most of us. Check it out.

http://www.panthershuddle.com/newfor...ic.php?t=10930

Here's a quote from that site:

"oh yeah Nance, isn't Rod in the last year of his deal? I so, I would love to lock him up for like maybe 2.5 - 3 mil a year for about 4 years. I'm sure he'll wait till the end of the year though, unless he feels grateful for us taking him, oh well... I'M JUST HYPED ABOUT HIM COMING HERE."

Believe me, Rod would love to sign for $3 million a year. That'll be $60,000 a catch, if you're lucky. Or, about $75,000 a drop.

TheMalcolmConnection · 07-28-2005, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Oh lordy

I saw someone say their going to win the Super Bowl now, and another that said he was so excited he was shaking.

You've gotta be kidding me

NO WAY!!! Hahahahahahahahahaha!

Redskins_P · 07-28-2005, 01:59 PM

Someone else said that Carolina has the best WR corp now with the addition of Gardner.

SkinsRock · 07-28-2005, 02:11 PM

Guys, every fan sees things through his/her teams colored glasses. For Carolina, it is a very good pickup. A veteran starter that could be a good #2 or #3 WR. Basically a replacement for Muhammad. And on our end, we got something for a guy that's been a dissappointment and would've been released anyway. Not bad from either point of view. But Superbowl??? Uhhh....ok....BUT honestly in today's NFL, who knows! They are a only year removed from being in the big game. (I wouldn't bet on it though)

As for the arguement that he was a 1st round pick, that is irrelevant. Pierce was a no-name player that performed well and got rewarded with a good deal. Priest Holmes wasn't even drafted. Should guys like these not make more money just because they weren't drafted high? No, they have proven themselves on the field. It works both ways. I wouldn't exactly call him a bust, but Gardner has definitely underachieved, so he is not worth as much as his potential was when he was drafted.

TheMalcolmConnection · 07-28-2005, 02:16 PM

I'm going to agree with the first part of your statement. I mean Dyson comes in for us and we all expect him to contribute, but how much do we REALLY think he will? I mean at least we aren't saying he is the missing piece to our Super Bowl team.

skinsfanthru&thru · 07-28-2005, 02:26 PM

I know I've deluded myself in relation to some of our past pick ups, but DAMNNN!!! those r some poor misguided people and this from a guy who thinks he'll do pretty well for the panthers but him being the final peice to get them to the superbowl and giving them them best wr corps in the league, DAMNNN!!!

TheMalcolmConnection · 07-28-2005, 02:29 PM

You MIGHT have been able to think that about TO, but come on!

EternalEnigma21 · 07-28-2005, 02:30 PM

Hell, I'm hoping Dyson doesnt make the first team. No offense to the guy, but seriously, we have young guys that I really want to see preform in McCants and Jacobs; we have vetaran speedsters in Moss and Patten, we have James thrash who plays the game with more heart than most anyone I've ever seen, and has anyone heard anything about that reciever we worked out from the NFLE?? Or was that the arena league??

Anyway reading the panther's fans reactions to getting gardner is pretty interesting... one even called him more talented than the moose. LMAO.

BigSKINBauer · 07-28-2005, 02:58 PM

really in my opinion, i wouldn't mind him on our team had he not been a d-bag. He can produce, but his d-bag qualities, his 50/50ness and the cap help, was more of a positive to release rather than to keep him

CrazyCanuck · 07-28-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

that means we get 2$mill in cap space back to pay for our rookie 1st rounders... and we're responsible for the 1.5$ thats left (so we bought a 6th round draft pick for 1.5$mill)...

We save $2.1M in salary and we incur a deadcap charge for Gardner in 2005. My sheets say $660K but it may be closer to $1.2M. Don't think it's as high as $1.5M though.

coachdavid · 07-28-2005, 07:01 PM

My understanding is that the best we can hope for is a 6th. To get a 5th would mean he makes the pro bowl. A 6th means that he starts over 70% of their games or plays in a high % of their offensive plays. Prediction: 6th rounder. Now, we must get all draft picks signed and in camp.

07-28-2005, 10:59 AM	#32
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,049	Re: Gardner to Panthers He's a talented guy that will probably frustrate the hell out of Panther fans all year. But he's going to throw some killer parties! Crank up the drunk bus Carolina here comes 50/50! __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-28-2005, 11:13 AM	#33
manicd Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 155	Re: Gardner to Panthers Damn, the Panther fans are obviously living in a larger fantasy world than most of us. Check it out. http://www.panthershuddle.com/newfor...ic.php?t=10930

07-28-2005, 01:59 PM	#37
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 48 Posts: 4,101	Re: Gardner to Panthers Someone else said that Carolina has the best WR corp now with the addition of Gardner.

07-28-2005, 02:11 PM	#38
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 56 Posts: 907	Re: Gardner to Panthers Guys, every fan sees things through his/her teams colored glasses. For Carolina, it is a very good pickup. A veteran starter that could be a good #2 or #3 WR. Basically a replacement for Muhammad. And on our end, we got something for a guy that's been a dissappointment and would've been released anyway. Not bad from either point of view. But Superbowl??? Uhhh....ok....BUT honestly in today's NFL, who knows! They are a only year removed from being in the big game. (I wouldn't bet on it though) As for the arguement that he was a 1st round pick, that is irrelevant. Pierce was a no-name player that performed well and got rewarded with a good deal. Priest Holmes wasn't even drafted. Should guys like these not make more money just because they weren't drafted high? No, they have proven themselves on the field. It works both ways. I wouldn't exactly call him a bust, but Gardner has definitely underachieved, so he is not worth as much as his potential was when he was drafted.

07-28-2005, 02:16 PM	#39
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Gardner to Panthers I'm going to agree with the first part of your statement. I mean Dyson comes in for us and we all expect him to contribute, but how much do we REALLY think he will? I mean at least we aren't saying he is the missing piece to our Super Bowl team. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

07-28-2005, 02:26 PM	#40
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,815	Re: Gardner to Panthers I know I've deluded myself in relation to some of our past pick ups, but DAMNNN!!! those r some poor misguided people and this from a guy who thinks he'll do pretty well for the panthers but him being the final peice to get them to the superbowl and giving them them best wr corps in the league, DAMNNN!!!

07-28-2005, 02:29 PM	#41
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Gardner to Panthers You MIGHT have been able to think that about TO, but come on! __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

07-28-2005, 02:30 PM	#42
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 46 Posts: 2,958	Re: Gardner to Panthers Hell, I'm hoping Dyson doesnt make the first team. No offense to the guy, but seriously, we have young guys that I really want to see preform in McCants and Jacobs; we have vetaran speedsters in Moss and Patten, we have James thrash who plays the game with more heart than most anyone I've ever seen, and has anyone heard anything about that reciever we worked out from the NFLE?? Or was that the arena league?? Anyway reading the panther's fans reactions to getting gardner is pretty interesting... one even called him more talented than the moose. LMAO.

07-28-2005, 02:58 PM	#43
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 38 Posts: 5,688	Re: Gardner to Panthers really in my opinion, i wouldn't mind him on our team had he not been a d-bag. He can produce, but his d-bag qualities, his 50/50ness and the cap help, was more of a positive to release rather than to keep him

07-28-2005, 07:01 PM	#45
coachdavid Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4	Re: Gardner to Panthers My understanding is that the best we can hope for is a 6th. To get a 5th would mean he makes the pro bowl. A 6th means that he starts over 70% of their games or plays in a high % of their offensive plays. Prediction: 6th rounder. Now, we must get all draft picks signed and in camp.

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