Trading Patrick Ramsey

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I actually wouldn't mind seeing Nic Clemons get some more playing time. I think he could be a diamond in the rough

clemons looked sick last night... give him a shot!

[That Guy]

KVB is a free agent, so it'd just be about the money with him...

[Kevikazi]

I thought Ramsey's contract is up after this year. Why would any team trade for him when he will be a free agent at the end of the season.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Kevikazi

I thought Ramsey's contract is up after this year. Why would any team trade for him when he will be a free agent at the end of the season.

I think he's under contract through the '06 season. If so, a team desperate enough, like the Jets or Ravens might be willing to take part in some sort of trade.

Of course, he had more value before this season started. If Gibbs truly followed his gut and knew in his heart that Brunell was really his quarterback, and he just didn't have faith in Ramsey, Gibbs should have tried for a trade at the end of last season.

Oh well.

[skinsguy]

I can't really say I believe this at all, because for one thing, Joe Gibbs is not going to say a word about dealing any player away during the season.

However, I wouldn't be disappointed at all by this trade if it actually happened!

[bigm29]

also abraham is a free agent after this season so why would we trade for him

[Hog1]

After reading some of the posts, it occurred to me, PR's worth is completely relative to the need of the team on the other end of the trade. I realize that this is not some kind of revelation. However, because we believe he may be worth a third round pick. naturally he could go much higher depending on his demand. In PR's case his upside can be tremendous. To date, he has not been abkle to achieve it. That doesn't mean he won't. I am sure teams can see that. If your not going to be able to draft USC's golden boy, it may be worth much more to you. Possibly the Jets, Baltimore, etc

[bertoskins]

we can trade for ramsey for abraham
and sign drew bress or philipp rivers from san diego

[sportscurmudgeon]

It's amazing how folks here look at the world differently depending on what team is doing the maneuvering.

Abhaham is the Jets' franchise player. If they hang that tag on him, won't it cost the Skins more than merely Patrick Ramsey in a deal? And remember that means a hefty signing bonus for Abraham which will come from cap room generated by??? Oh, and lots of teams will realiza that the Skins might want to "move Ramsey" since his contract starts to be less "cap friendly" in its later years. So why offer the Skins top dollar for a guy that they want to "move".

When the Skins' FO is theoretically in charge of the maneuvering, people here assume that a franchise player will bring the full two first round pick value and maybe more.

Oh, here are twi nire flies in the ointment:

1. It is by no means certain that Herm Edwards will be back in NY next year. And don't be surprised if he doesn't wind up in KC...

2. The Jets are still very much in the running to draft a kid named Leinart. I know that Patrick Ramsey is held in lofty esteem here, but I'd take a flyer on Leinart over Ramsey every day of the week and twice a day if the moon is full.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Honestly, Carr isn't a bad QB. I'd be more inclined to trade down and draft some offensive linemen!

[MTK]

My definition of lately is the current front office setup, or Gibbs 2.0 to be exact, and in that case we've had far more hits than misses.

What happened in 2000 isn't even relevant anymore, so why keep rehashing it??

[mason4415]

The Ramsey/Abraham trade would NEVER happen. Abraham will be a free agent unless they franchise him. Even if he wasn't, why the Jets trade him for a back-up QB. Won't Pennington be back?

Second, Beemnseven is right. We have a 11-13 record. Just because Brunell has had 5-7 good games this year doesn't mean he was a good signing. Even if he leads us to the playoffs, doesn't mean it was a smart signing. He completely ruined last year's season! I will NEVER forget how bad he was, and how we wasted such a great Defense. Now, the defense is so suspect!

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by mason4415

Second, Beemnseven is right. We have a 11-13 record. Just because Brunell has had 5-7 good games this year doesn't mean he was a good signing. Even if he leads us to the playoffs, doesn't mean it was a smart signing. He completely ruined last year's season! I will NEVER forget how bad he was, and how we wasted such a great Defense. Now, the defense is so suspect!

Go back and re-read your post again. We don't have a 11-13 record. We have a 5-3 record. What is done in last season stays in last season. By your logic, it is the same as me saying that just because Brunell had a crappy 7 or 8 games last year, doesn't mean it was a bad signing. So, even if Brunell happened to lead the Redskins to the Super Bowl and win it all, you'd still say it was a mistake to sign him just because of what happened a year ago? :yeahright

[MTK]

Brunell did not single handedly ruin last season, that's just a ridiculous statement.

We had problems across the board last season from the system, playcalling, penalties, clock management, personnel, and the list could go on and on.

So if he helps the team get to the playoffs this year people will still say he was a bad signing? C'mon, we're talking about a team that hasn't had a sniff of the postseason since 1999, and we're going to hold a silly grudge against Brunell... for what?

I don't know what it's going to take to make people forget about last season, I thought the playoffs would but for some people Brunell will never redeem himself. Even if they won it all I could still see some people saying "yeah but what about 2004?"

[Big C]

last year is over, brunell is doing great this year. last year our recievers were crap, and matty is right. we had lots of things wrong with our team.