Who do you want to start at QB?

Bucket · 09-04-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Neither guy is great, but Grossman got a team to the SB, Beck can never say he did. Of all the QB battles and controversies we have had with the Skins over the time I have been a Warpather and even beyond, why do folks never wise up? Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. We have been fooled more than twice now, way more than twice if you go back to Heath Shuler. Why do you all think Beck is the better option? Just because he is more mobile than Grossman? Remember Vick at ATL? He was mobile as hell, but couldn't get the job done in the passing game. Grossman is Mr. Cool in the pocket, Beck is great in the bootleg. How many guys in the NFL went to the SB doing the bootleg all the time? Grossman has actually started more than one season worth of games. Mr. Beck only 4. I get razed a lot for taking Gus Frerotte for me screen name, as he was a mediocre QB, but at least he made the Pro Bowl, etc. This Beck doesn't look so much more promising the Gus, so why do you jump on the bandwagon so to speak? Grossman could elevate his game to starter status right away, while Beck is 30 and yet to be a regular starter. I understand why you aren't completely sold on Rex, but why do you think Beck is going to light it up or even just do better than Rex? His audition for the job hasn't been so hot.

I stopped reading when I got to that.. Mr. Cool int he pocket

JoeRedskin · 09-04-2011, 10:21 PM

Can I just say that as I read through this thread my initial "good feeling" buzz from the preseason is fading fast. Let's face it:

As to Grossman, he has shown that when he is good, he is better than good enough to win. Unfortunately, both last year and in the preseason, he has shown (to me at least) that he hasn't shaken his bad habits. I saw nothing to convince me Bad Rex is tucked safely away in closet somewhere.

And then there's Beck, God help us all, he says all the right things, he has nice athleticism, a more than adequate arm and has the whole "late-bloomer" mystique working for him. Against Indy, he was terrific, he anticipated throws, had a nice quick release and really had a good tempo. But then Tampa happened - did anyone else watch him stare down receivers and make several "Dear God No!!!" throws?

I love the team except for the QB position and secondary. While I think the secondary may prove adequate, I am not so convinced about any choice made at the QB position.

MTK · 09-04-2011, 10:36 PM

In the end I don't think either guy is a savior, nor do they need to be. Our success is going to hinge more on our defense and running game. All we need is efficient QB play and someone who doesn't single handedly give away games.

NYCskinfan82 · 09-04-2011, 10:38 PM

Who do I want to see start Beck, but I WILL CHEER for either QB. HTTR.

wilsowilso · 09-04-2011, 10:42 PM

I'm so sick of losing.

I know we aren't going to be world beaters this year.

I just hope whoever they pick really makes the most of the opportunity.

JoeRedskin · 09-05-2011, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I'm so sick of losing.

I know we aren't going to be world beaters this year.

I just hope whoever they pick really makes the most of the opportunity.

Yup. That about sums it all up. Well said.

Bucket · 09-05-2011, 12:30 AM

John Beck is the second coming of Brad Johnson

Ruhskins · 09-05-2011, 02:14 PM

I wonder who does Kyle Shanahan want as his starting QB? My idea is let's go with whoever Kyle wants. Last time we didn't, we got stuck with McNabb.

chrisl13 · 09-05-2011, 02:15 PM

Rex our starter for Sunday according to JLC.

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Ruhskins · 09-05-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisl13

Rex our starter for Sunday according to JLC.

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So in other words, we don't know yet.

Bucket · 09-05-2011, 02:22 PM

That's interesting.. Hopefully he can perform at a high level and help us win games without throwing them away.

Shanny is a man of his word. He preaches competition, and no matter how badly he wanted Beck to become the starter. Rex stepped up and performed to win the job.

SkinzWin · 09-05-2011, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucket

John Beck is the second coming of Brad Johnson

I thought you were going to say Gus Frerotte. LOL.

Bucket · 09-05-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

I thought you were going to say Gus Frerotte. LOL.

Haha.. I was being sarcastic. I believe Rex has what it takes to wins a lot of games for us this year. He looks solid last year, and good in preseason this year. As long as he doesn't turn into the turnover machine he'll be good to go.

SirClintonPortis · 09-05-2011, 02:38 PM

History likes to repeat itself. Some chump from the Giants will injure Rex, then we roll with Beck all the way to the Super Bowl and beyond.

CRedskinsRule · 09-05-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So in other words, we don't know yet.

That's exactly how I felt, even more that Beck's chances just went up.

(If JLC is right it will be the first time in a while that he broke Skins news.)

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09-04-2011, 10:21 PM	#437
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? Can I just say that as I read through this thread my initial "good feeling" buzz from the preseason is fading fast. Let's face it: As to Grossman, he has shown that when he is good, he is better than good enough to win. Unfortunately, both last year and in the preseason, he has shown (to me at least) that he hasn't shaken his bad habits. I saw nothing to convince me Bad Rex is tucked safely away in closet somewhere. And then there's Beck, God help us all, he says all the right things, he has nice athleticism, a more than adequate arm and has the whole "late-bloomer" mystique working for him. Against Indy, he was terrific, he anticipated throws, had a nice quick release and really had a good tempo. But then Tampa happened - did anyone else watch him stare down receivers and make several "Dear God No!!!" throws? I love the team except for the QB position and secondary. While I think the secondary may prove adequate, I am not so convinced about any choice made at the QB position. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

09-04-2011, 10:36 PM	#438
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? In the end I don't think either guy is a savior, nor do they need to be. Our success is going to hinge more on our defense and running game. All we need is efficient QB play and someone who doesn't single handedly give away games. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-04-2011, 10:38 PM	#439
NYCskinfan82 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Age: 55 Posts: 3,803	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? Who do I want to see start Beck, but I WILL CHEER for either QB. HTTR.

09-04-2011, 10:42 PM	#440
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 51 Posts: 2,841	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? I'm so sick of losing. I know we aren't going to be world beaters this year. I just hope whoever they pick really makes the most of the opportunity.

09-05-2011, 12:30 AM	#442
Bucket Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 3,881	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? John Beck is the second coming of Brad Johnson __________________ I need something to cheer about Redskin Fan since '88 Be friends on Twitter! @thecasualhero

09-05-2011, 02:14 PM	#443
Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,341	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? I wonder who does Kyle Shanahan want as his starting QB? My idea is let's go with whoever Kyle wants. Last time we didn't, we got stuck with McNabb. __________________ R.I.P. #21

09-05-2011, 02:15 PM	#444
chrisl13 Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 2 Minutes away from Fedex Field, Maryland Posts: 363	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? Rex our starter for Sunday according to JLC. Twitter __________________ Skins, '04 - Forever. Last edited by chrisl13; 09-05-2011 at 02:16 PM.

09-05-2011, 02:22 PM	#446
Bucket Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 3,881	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? That's interesting.. Hopefully he can perform at a high level and help us win games without throwing them away. Shanny is a man of his word. He preaches competition, and no matter how badly he wanted Beck to become the starter. Rex stepped up and performed to win the job. __________________ I need something to cheer about Redskin Fan since '88 Be friends on Twitter! @thecasualhero

09-05-2011, 02:38 PM	#449
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? History likes to repeat itself. Some chump from the Giants will injure Rex, then we roll with Beck all the way to the Super Bowl and beyond. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

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