Around the league divisional weekend

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Manning's career post season QB rating: 86

Brady's career post season QB rating: 86



LOL. Exactly the same. ROFFFFFFFFFL.

Manning: 32 touchowns 21 interceptions
Brady: 41 touchdowns 20 interceptions.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Manning: 32 touchowns 21 interceptions
Brady: 41 touchdowns 20 interceptions.

Just stop. I showed you were their playoff career QB rating is equal. If Manning had just as many games as Brady did, I'm sure his TD (and INTs) would be much greater. Again, when you have a shitty defense, you have to carry the team.



...and continue saying the WR didn't let the ball hit his hands and bounce up. It did. Even the commentator said that Peyton put the ball right were he supposed to.

[Chico23231]

Police want to talk to Kenny Britt about stabbing

Some people just dont get it

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Redskins defense allowed 200 plus yards on the ground with 6.1 YPC. You don't win many games playing like that, if RG3 was healthy and if we kept running the ball I do think the Redskins would have pulled out the win, but it would have been a 27-24 type of win. Seattle was able to move the ball very well and the Redskins allowed key 3rd down conversions during that game. To say the Redskins would have just won the game is not completely accurate, just like the Atlanta Seattle game, that game came down to a last 30 second drive by the Falcons, but sadly we will never know if the Redskins could have pulled it out.

Don't you think that the offense not being able to get a first down had something to do with that? Can't keep putting your defense out there for 3 straight quarters. I'm not saying we would have won the game w/ RG3 healthy, but our chances would have been increased.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Police want to talk to Kenny Britt about stabbing

Some people just dont get it

My goodness, this assclown again? Really? Can he not hang around (or be) complete idiots?

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Police want to talk to Kenny Britt about stabbing

Some people just dont get it

in his defense, maybe it was a deaf man throwing gang sign language

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

So you mean that WR who let the ball deflect off his hands for a INT/TD didn't let Manning down? You mean a defense that was ranked #2 in the NFL (#4 in PPG defense) gave up 31 points to a shitty Ravens offense didn't let Manning down? It's obvious you didn't even bother watching the game, but decided to add your Goat commentary.

http://nfl.cpl.delvenetworks.com/pla...a80bff84e44e27

Some of you have you head buried in the sand. This is like when Brett Favre got blamed for that loss against the Saints for his INT, but yet Adrian Peterson fumbled the ball 3 times (twice within the 5 yard line). BRETT CHOKE!!....lol Amazing how illogical some people can be.

The two dumbass DBs that forgot that Jacoby Jones has blazing speed and let him get by them definitely let Manning down.

[Chico23231]

Facts are facts, Peyton hasnt been able to get it done like Brady has or even Eli. It does matter, playoffs your suppose to elavate your game. The greats alway elevate their game.

Those clutch stats are tough to deal with, just ask Cowboy fans.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Just stop. I showed you were their playoff career QB rating is equal. If Manning had just as many games as Brady did, I'm sure his TD (and INTs) would be much greater. Again, when you have a shitty defense, you have to carry the team.



...and continue saying the WR didn't let the ball hit his hands and bounce up. It did. Even the commentator said that Peyton put the ball right were he supposed to.

The commentator said he thought it should have been pass interference. I remember that specific play. You can clearly see Brown got hand on that pass and there was little to no chance Stokley was going to catch it. It was a dangerous high risk pass, Manning should have put the ball low and away so that the defender had no chance of making a play, he but the ball high and made Stokley slow down on the play, hence why he was slowing down and the defender ran into him. The pass was a high risk low reward pass with good coverage, they would not have even gotten the first down. Again you can say it was pass interference, but to say that was a good pass and it was Stokley's fault would be incorrect.

Seeing that Manning already had more interceptions than Brady in playoff games while playing less games and he would increase that total actually proves my point further.

So this year he gets a good defense statistically while his defense plays poorly in the playoffs and he loses.

Before that his defense played well in the playoffs but was bad statistically and he loses.

But no matter what its on the defense.

He has led one game winning drive his entire career in the playoffs. But has been given the opportunity to do so 8 times. Guess who has the same amount of game winning drives... Tim Tebow... who by the way took pretty much this exact same roster to the same point in the playoffs last year.

Like I said this game is not entirely on Manning, but it is my opinion that a quarterbacks job is to put his team in the best position to win a game, not to necessarily win it for you but to make sure you set up the team to be in a position to win the game. Peyton Manning did not do that this past game and has repeatedly come up short in doing so in the playoffs. In the playoffs Brady has done so repeatedly.

Some fans like Peyton Manning, some like Tom Brady, its an opinion because they both will go down as top 5 quarterbacks of all time.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by donofriose

The commentator said he thought it should have been pass interference. I remember that specific play. You can clearly see Brown got hand on that pass and there was little to no chance Stokley was going to catch it. It was a dangerous high risk pass, Manning should have put the ball low and away so that the defender had no chance of making a play, he but the ball high and made Stokley slow down on the play, hence why he was slowing down and the defender ran into him. The pass was a high risk low reward pass with good coverage, they would not have even gotten the first down. Again you can say it was pass interference, but to say that was a good pass and it was Stokley's fault would be incorrect.

Seeing that Manning already had more interceptions than Brady in playoff games while playing less games and he would increase that total actually proves my point further.

So this year he gets a good defense statistically while his defense plays poorly in the playoffs and he loses.

Before that his defense played well in the playoffs but was bad statistically and he loses.

But no matter what its on the defense.

He has led one game winning drive his entire career in the playoffs. But has been given the opportunity to do so 8 times. Guess who has the same amount of game winning drives... Tim Tebow... who by the way took pretty much this exact same roster to the same point in the playoffs last year.

Like I said this game is not entirely on Manning, but it is my opinion that a quarterbacks job is to put his team in the best position to win a game, not to necessarily win it for you but to make sure you set up the team to be in a position to win the game. Peyton Manning did not do that this past game and has repeatedly come up short in doing so in the playoffs. In the playoffs Brady has done so repeatedly.

Some fans like Peyton Manning, some like Tom Brady, its an opinion because they both will go down as top 5 quarterbacks of all time.

You keep saying this, but his team had the lead with 1:09 on the clock and the Ravens needed to go 77 yards. If Rahim Moore properly plays a ball in the air, the Broncos win. He put his team in a position to win the game, then they let him down. Then, in the 2nd OT, he let his team down, however that never should have happened. I honestly can't see how people are saying Manning cost his team the game. He put them in a position to win and they should have.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by jdlea

You keep saying this, but his team had the lead with 1:09 on the clock and the Ravens needed to go 77 yards. If Rahim Moore properly plays a ball in the air, the Broncos win. He put his team in a position to win the game, then they let him down. Then, in the 2nd OT, he let his team down, however that never should have happened. I honestly can't see how people are saying Manning cost his team the game. He put them in a position to win and they should have.

just like wilson put his team in a position to win.

his team had the lead w 31 seconds left, but atl had 2 timeouts and made it happen

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by los panda

just like wilson put his team in a position to win.

his team had the lead w 31 seconds left, but atl had 2 timeouts and made it happen

Right, I think Russell Wilson did enough to win that game. Also, there was that first half ending on them and poor decision to go for it on 4th and 1 that helped cost them the game, but Wilson put his team in a position to win.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Facts are facts, Peyton hasnt been able to get it done like Brady has or even Eli. It does matter, playoffs your suppose to elavate your game. The greats alway elevate their game.

Those clutch stats are tough to deal with, just ask Cowboy fans.

So how is Brady's game elevated if both of their career playoff QB rating is the same? (86) If both of their ratings are the same, it would tell me there are other underlining issues why one's record was good and the other one was bad.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

So you mean that WR who let the ball deflect off his hands for a INT/TD didn't let Manning down? You mean a defense that was ranked #2 in the NFL (#4 in PPG defense) gave up 31 points to a shitty Ravens offense didn't let Manning down? It's obvious you didn't even bother watching the game, but decided to add your Goat commentary.

http://nfl.cpl.delvenetworks.com/pla...a80bff84e44e27

Some of you have you head buried in the sand. This is like when Brett Favre got blamed for that loss against the Saints for his INT, but yet Adrian Peterson fumbled the ball 3 times (twice within the 5 yard line). BRETT CHOKE!!....lol Amazing how illogical some people can be.

Its amazing that you can say such stupid and unfactual things while accusing others of having their heads in the sand.

The Raven's offense was 10th in the NFL in points scored, averaging 25 points per game. I wouldnt call that "sh!tty." I actually watched the entire game and it was probably the most exciting playoff game i've seen in recent memory. you can criticizie the broncos defense all you want, but its offense (with manning as its quarterback) is what lost this game. The Broncos offense ranked 2nd in the NFL in points this year, averaging over 30 points per game. Yet Manning only lead 3 scoring drives (for 21 points) in 5 quarters of football against the NFLs 17th ranked defense. You shrug away one of Mannings interceptions of not being his fault because the ball was tipped - well, that happens to every NFL quarterback. Ultimately, Manning made the decision to throw a tippable ball, so thats why that INT was his fault. The fumble and 2nd INT in overtime were inexcusable.

I'm not saying that Manning is not a great quarterback. He is - but he, like many other broncos players - had a sub-par game against the Ravens. In a passing league, the quarterback is the most important player on a team. Manning is the clear MVP on the team (and arguably in the entire league), so its logical that his play - whether good or bad - has more of an impact on a game's outcome than any of the other players on the team.

Mannings play wasnt the only reason the Bronco's lost the game, but it was the biggest reason.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Right, I think Russell Wilson did enough to win that game. Also, there was that first half ending on them and poor decision to go for it on 4th and 1 that helped cost them the game, but Wilson put his team in a position to win.

Wilson played an exceptional game. I dont think you could have asked a QB to play much better than he did. He elevated his play as the season progressed, and continued to do so in the post-season.

Atlanta's last second field goal which won the game really could have gone either way. If it had missed, the story would be completely different now. In that game, i'd say both QB's played well when they needed to.