Commanders Post at The Warpath  

Home | Forums | Donate | Shop




Go Back   Commanders Post at The Warpath > Commanders Football > Locker Room Main Forum

Locker Room Main Forum Commanders Football & NFL discussion


Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

Locker Room Main Forum


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-15-2014, 10:02 AM   #1
HailGreen28
Playmaker
 
HailGreen28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,754
Re: Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins View Post
I did and I would've said he had no control. The ball is still moving
Pulling the ball back towards your body is "no control"?
HailGreen28 is offline  
Old 12-15-2014, 10:10 AM   #2
Alvin Walton
Pro Bowl
 
Alvin Walton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Holland, Michigan
Posts: 5,741
Re: Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by HailGreen28 View Post
Pulling the ball back towards your body is "no control"?
Looked to me like he was out of bounds by that point.
The only way I could validate this touchdown is to say that he had possession in bounds for 1/3 of a second.
And thats not enough.....I sure as hell would not have awarded six points to the opponent had it been them.
__________________
REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968
Alvin Walton is offline  
Old 12-15-2014, 10:17 AM   #3
HailGreen28
Playmaker
 
HailGreen28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,754
Re: Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alvin Walton View Post
Looked to me like he was out of bounds by that point.
The only way I could validate this touchdown is to say that he had possession in bounds for 1/3 of a second.
And thats not enough.....I sure as hell would not have awarded six points to the opponent had it been them.
So you're saying he had possession until he was out of bounds?

1/3 second, or more like a second, was when the runner broke the plane of the goal line with the ball under his control. Touchdown.
HailGreen28 is offline  
Old 12-15-2014, 12:13 PM   #4
over the mountain
Playmaker
 
over the mountain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: close to the edge
Posts: 4,926
Re: Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by HailGreen28 View Post
So you're saying he had possession until he was out of bounds?

1/3 second, or more like a second, was when the runner broke the plane of the goal line with the ball under his control. Touchdown.
the good explanation i read is that while RG3 did re-gain control before the ball crossed the plane ... since he lost and then re-gained control of the ball (all while in the air), he needed to maintain control as he hit the ground (like a receiver who makes a toe-tap reception in the endzone).

the spirit of the rule (im guessing) is that you need to establish possession throughout the entire football act .... but it seems strange that re-establishing possession by falling out of bounds matters.

but did the ball touch the ground though? it looked like he bobbled it but kept it off the ground?

i think the rule was applied technically correct.

i dont think that rule ever envisioned being applied to what happened on RG3's dive (having control-losing control-regaining control).

i imagine an exception will be made where this rule will not apply to a player who had previously established control on the play (ala runner)
__________________
Life is brutal, but beautiful
over the mountain is offline  
Old 12-15-2014, 10:38 AM   #5
Lotus
Fire Bruce NOW
 
Lotus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hattiesburg, MS
Posts: 11,434
Re: Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alvin Walton View Post
Looked to me like he was out of bounds by that point.
The only way I could validate this touchdown is to say that he had possession in bounds for 1/3 of a second.
And thats not enough.....I sure as hell would not have awarded six points to the opponent had it been them.
That's it...had the Giants scored on such a play, we'd all be screaming bloody murder about that today.
__________________
Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250)
Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350)
Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444)
Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430)
We won more with Vinny
Lotus is offline  
Old 12-15-2014, 10:14 AM   #6
BaltimoreSkins
Pro Bowl
 
BaltimoreSkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Parkton, MD
Posts: 5,779
Re: Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by HailGreen28 View Post
Pulling the ball back towards your body is "no control"?
The ball is not secure in his hands.
BaltimoreSkins is offline  
Old 12-15-2014, 12:04 PM   #7
SmootSmack
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 45,256
Re: Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins View Post
I did and I would've said he had no control. The ball is still moving
Absolutely the right call
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline  
Old 12-15-2014, 11:22 AM   #8
Meks
Pro Bowl
 
Meks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: South Jersey
Age: 39
Posts: 5,736
Re: Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

Point is if it were the other team, its a TD ... Bias ass refs
__________________
R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR
Meks is offline  
Old 12-15-2014, 12:17 PM   #9
Chico23231
Warpath Hall of Fame
 
Chico23231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 34,809
Re: Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

a couple years ago this is a touchdown, just wierd how the league is so poorly run
__________________
My pronouns: King/Your ruler

He Gets Us
Chico23231 is offline  
Old 12-15-2014, 12:26 PM   #10
skinsfaninok
Warpath Hall of Fame
 
skinsfaninok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: UNITED STATES
Age: 38
Posts: 36,175
Re: Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

It may be the right call but that play happens a bunch in the nfl and is never looked at. O well not that it matters we r 3-11
__________________
“Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.”
― Nick Saban
skinsfaninok is offline  
Old 12-15-2014, 02:28 PM   #11
Lotus
Fire Bruce NOW
 
Lotus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hattiesburg, MS
Posts: 11,434
Re: Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

On the play right before the disputed touchdown, RGIII sent a floater to Reed in the left flat that was broken up. If RGIII had thrown a bullet to the back shoulder instead of a floater, it was 6 points.
__________________
Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250)
Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350)
Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444)
Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430)
We won more with Vinny
Lotus is offline  
Old 12-15-2014, 03:04 PM   #12
donofriose
The Starter
 
donofriose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,097
Re: Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

Too many variables to truly find someone to blame for a sack.

Could be QB, OL, WR, RB, or even the coach for calling a dumb play.

I do know that the offensive line gets beat a lot one on one which is a recipe for disaster.
donofriose is offline  
Old 12-15-2014, 03:24 PM   #13
REDSKINS4ever
Playmaker
 
REDSKINS4ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Washington, D.C.
Posts: 4,114
Re: Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by donofriose View Post
I do know that the offensive line gets beat a lot one on one which is a recipe for disaster.
That offensive line has been diarrhea since 2012.....we didn't see only because of RG3's athleticism masked a lot of the o lines weaknesses with the read option.....in a normal offense the frailty of the offensive line is more visible....they can't run block. They can't pass protect. None of the Redskins offensive linemen would not be starting for another NFL team except Trent Williams.....
__________________
Touchdown Washington Redskins!!!
REDSKINS4ever is offline  
Old 12-15-2014, 06:57 PM   #14
calia
Playmaker
 
calia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Woodside, CA
Age: 56
Posts: 3,599
Re: Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

Looking at the video, it occurs to me that had the play been upheld, there would be no great controversy about it -- probably even among Giants fans. And who the heck knows what would have happened the rest of the way out.

Story of the season, folks. Lots of what ifs.
__________________
"Coach, what do you think of your team's execution?"
"I'm all for it." -- Coach McKay
calia is offline  
Old 12-15-2014, 09:29 PM   #15
TheHolyGibbs
Camp Scrub
 
TheHolyGibbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Woodstock, MD
Posts: 47
Re: Redskins vs Giants GameDay Thread

Did anyone else notice this at the end of the game? I thought he looked injured but then it hasn't been mentioned. Right knee. Seems like just a matter of time.

RGIII Appeared To Suffer Yet Another Leg Injury At End Of Loss To Giants - Business Insider
TheHolyGibbs is offline  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We have no official affiliation with the Washington Commanders or the NFL.
Page generated in 3.58795 seconds with 10 queries