'Occupy' types

[Alvin Walton]

In an election year?
Ha!

[Alvin Walton]

Again, you are missing the part where Iran constantly threatens to annihilate Israel.

A few well placed JDAMS today is a lot better than having the western end of the Mediterranean become a giant cesium zone tomorrow.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Again, you are missing the part where Iran constantly threatens to annihilate Israel.

A few well placed JDAMS today is a lot better than having the western end of the Mediterranean become a giant cesium zone tomorrow.

Meanwhile, in the real world.

Ex Israeli Pilot who talks about the war crimes his own countries are committing.

[Alvin Walton]

Nice videos.....
The last one was highly edited and a total hoax.
Gimme a break.....

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f237/redstout/deflectioncard.jpg

Nice videos.....
The last one was highly edited and a total hoax.
Gimme a break.....

LOL. Coming from you, that's rich. You haven't shown shit, but spouted talking points from dumbasses on the TV and main stream media. You keep talking about Iran and how they are "talking" about wiping the Israelis out and I show you that's exactly what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians. BUT....that's deflection?...lololol


...but yeah, this map doesn't mean squat. They aren't systematically wiping out the Arabs and going against a UN resolution.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

LOL. Coming from you, that's rich. You haven't shown shit, but spouted talking points from dumbasses on the TV and main stream media. You keep talking about Iran and how they are "talking" about wiping the Israelis out and I show you that's exactly what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians. BUT....that's deflection?...lololol


...but yeah, this map doesn't mean squat. They aren't systematically wiping out the Arabs and going against a UN resolution.

Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C., two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel. Up until 1968, the Jews who lived in Israel - and before that British Palestine - did not refer to themselves as 'Israelis'. They called themselves 'Palestinian Jews'.

Palestinians........trick, please!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C., two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel. Up until 1968, the Jews who lived in Israel - and before that British Palestine - did not refer to themselves as 'Israelis'. They called themselves 'Palestinian Jews'.

Palestinians........trick, please!

Weren't these Arabs living in Palestine/Israel before 1967? During the Ottoman Empire in the 16th and 17th century, there was a small Jewish population living in the area known today as Israel. But there was a much sizable population of Muslims living in that area.

If I am not mistaken, I believe a lot of these native Palestinian Jews lived somewhat peacefully along with the majority Muslim population. It was the immigration of European Jews and the Zionist movement that propelled the conflict between these two groups, along with the growing Muslim nationalist movement of the early 1900s.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Weren't these Arabs living in Palestine/Israel before 1967? During the Ottoman Empire in the 16th and 17th century, there was a small Jewish population living in the area known today as Israel. But there was a much sizable population of Muslims living in that area.

If I am not mistaken, I believe a lot of these native Palestinian Jews lived somewhat peacefully along with the majority Muslim population. It was the immigration of European Jews and the Zionist movement that propelled the conflict between these two groups, along with the growing Muslim nationalist movement of the early 1900s.

This.

There is a lot of revisionist history going on on both sides of this thread.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

LOL. Coming from you, that's rich. You haven't shown shit, but spouted talking points from dumbasses on the TV and main stream media. You keep talking about Iran and how they are "talking" about wiping the Israelis out and I show you that's exactly what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians. BUT....that's deflection?...lololol

...but yeah, this map doesn't mean squat. They aren't systematically wiping out the Arabs and going against a UN resolution.

Didn't realize there were Israeli "death camps" so that they could "systematically wip[e] out the Arabs". Pretty shoddy language given the issues at hand. The map simply shows land acquired. In fact, the muslim population of Israel has grown since 1995 both in raw numbers and as a percentage of the whole (14% in '95, 22% in 08). Statistical Abstract of Israel 2009 - No. 60 Subject 2 - Table No. 2

The Israelis are by no means pure as snow guys and our alliance with them is driven by a number of factors both internal to our national politics and by our desire for a stable govt. ally with in the ME (Say what you want about their politics but, since their establishment in '47, when was the last time Israel had a "regime change" such as has occurred in the various Arab nations in the region).

Israel has not abided by the UN declaration and should do so. At the same time, other than Egypt & Jordan every other Arab nation in the Mid-East is in a state of either declared or undeclared war with Israel. Given that, and though I don't agree whole heartedly with it, I can see their side of the story.

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin(edit)

And all of this is relevant to the potential destabilizing effect to the region caused by Iran's potential possesion of nuclear weapns how?

[Alvin Walton]

So its all about Palestine now??????
This thread has more curves in it than a slinky.

[GMScud]

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

So its all about Palestine now??????
This thread has more curves in it than a slinky.

No, you keep talking about the threat of Iran to Israel, and I'm showing you the true threat of Israel to the Arab nation. The Hamas and Palestine region are backed by Iran and Syria. Iraq was the middle man in all of this.


Iran having a nuke is no more of a threat than Israel having one.


You keep talking about deflecting but yet you deflect over and over and over. You have shown absolutely nothing of substance. Nothing.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

No, you keep talking about the threat of Iran to Israel, and I'm showing you the true threat of Israel to the Arab nation. The Hamas and Palestine region are backed by Iran and Syria. Iraq was the middle man in all of this.


Iran having a nuke is no more of a threat than Israel having one.


You keep talking about deflecting but yet you deflect over and over and over. You have shown absolutely nothing of substance. Nothing.

Wow.....could you get any loonier?

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Iran having a nuke is no more of a threat than Israel having one.

Then why does Ahmadinejad make so many less-than-veiled threats regarding the obliteration of Israel in his speeches?

This should concern anyone in conjunction with a nuclear armed Iran.

Israel is the only thriving Democracy in a cesspool of theocracies.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

No, you keep talking about the threat of Iran to Israel, and I'm showing you the true threat of Israel to the Arab nation. The Hamas and Palestine region are backed by Iran and Syria. Iraq was the middle man in all of this.

Which Arab nation? You do realize there are several?

Iran, of course, is not one of them.