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Playmaker
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Stephens City, VA
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Re: Sex Abuse Scandal Rocks Penn State
The statue had to go down. No way it could still stand after all that has transpired.
Constant reminder of the tragedy that happened. Victims and families will never heal from it as long as Joe is still around. Keeping the statue up continues to enshrine Joe as a hero, something he isn't and now obviously never was.
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Hail Raiser
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Gamebreaker
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 14,751
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Re: Sex Abuse Scandal Rocks Penn State
Penn State just got shit on. Since they vacated all their wins since 1998, does that mean the leader in all-time wins reverts back to Bobby Bowden?
edit: guess so Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter RT @darrenrovell: Paterno's new win count is 298. .... 12th all time. Faux John Madden @FauxJohnMadden After today Penn State is now on a 175 game losing streak.
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Puppy Kicker
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Arlington, Virginia
Age: 43
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Re: Sex Abuse Scandal Rocks Penn State
PSU football is dead. PSU may go bankrupt once the civil suits start flying.
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Living Legend
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: PA
Age: 47
Posts: 17,460
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Re: Sex Abuse Scandal Rocks Penn State
4-year Bowl ban, vacated wins to 1999, 5-year probation, reduced scholarships...slap on the wrist.
Vacated wins mean nothing to current players or the dead coach...and most importantly to the victims. A crappy football team and no New Year's vacations for the Paterno worshippers does little to teach them a lesson. They're still getting what they discarded childrens' lives to protect...Penn State football on Saturdays. I thought the only way to teach them (the University and the blind, rabid worshipers) a real lesson is to take away PSU football for a while so they can realize how bad it really was and what SHOULD be important in life. Disappointed. At least that bronze idol has been yanked down.
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Contains football related knowledge
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Second Star On The Right
Age: 63
Posts: 10,401
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Re: Sex Abuse Scandal Rocks Penn State
The football program is still intact. To me, that is wrong.
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Gamebreaker
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 14,751
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Re: Sex Abuse Scandal Rocks Penn State
Personally, I'm surprised they did this much. I would have shut down their program this year, and then imposed these following sanctions following this year. Realistically you knew they weren't going to end the football program even though it should have ended it.
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Uncle Phil
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: Sex Abuse Scandal Rocks Penn State
This is no slap on the wrist. The program was killed without being officially declared dead
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Living Legend
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: PA
Age: 47
Posts: 17,460
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The PSU fans will stil be tailgating and the University will still fill the seats every Saturday home game. To many of these Paterno apologists, nothing will be different to them other than the scoreboard. They'll continue to do their annoying "WE ARE...PENN STATE" chant and who knows...they'll probably rally and up their contributions to try to make up for what they feel is an unfair punishment. The Paterno shrines are STILL up where I work. It's disgusting. They're still denying Paterno or anyone other than Sandusky did anything wrong. They want the Governor investigated to distract from the real investigation on Paterno. They're crying about the statue. They learned NOTHING, nor will they as long as the team is suiting up...it will be business as usual. Maybe those outside of PA don't understand how crazy and obsessed these PSU fans and alumni are. It's cult-like. It makes Red Sox nation look like a book club. They literally make it their religion and are blind to reality. You never could say anything negative about Penn State (which I always have because I see the University for what it is...a state-funded party school for people who can't get into PA's better colleges). Trust me, these "punishments" won't teach anyone a lesson. Sure it will reduce their profits and hurt their team's record on the field. They'll still pretend Paterno is the all times win leader, they'll still cover their cars and yards with blue and white merchandise and they'll still come into the offices on Friday mornings doing their stupid chant. I know these people. Like Matt Millen just said, what this really affects is recruiting. That's the PSU mentality...football trumps all, even the lives of children.
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Second Star On The Right
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Football should not be played at PSU. Not next year. Not the year after that. Not until they have submitted proof that the culture evidenced bythe Freeh Report has been utterly destroyed root and branch.
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Gamebreaker
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 14,751
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Re: Sex Abuse Scandal Rocks Penn State
I find this tweet to be indeed ironic.
LL @LL_HTTR Last QB to win a game for Penn State is mike mcqueary.. #Ironic
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Puppy Kicker
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Arlington, Virginia
Age: 43
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Re: Sex Abuse Scandal Rocks Penn State
What recruit is going to go to Penn St. with no scholarship and no chance at the postseason? I believe this is more detrimental to the school than a 1 year ban. I would have liked to also see them open up free transfers for current players without the waiting period to let current players get out.
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Gamebreaker
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Re: Sex Abuse Scandal Rocks Penn State
Somebody posted this on craigslist.
Slightly Used Joe Paterno Statue Also, Big Ten is going to announce their sanctions at 11am EST.
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Most Interesting Man in the World
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Age: 39
Posts: 8,606
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Re: Sex Abuse Scandal Rocks Penn State
So is this worst than a one-year "Death Penalty"? Several articles, online, seem to say that. They are basically playing meaningless football for 4 years, which would lead me to believe their program will suffer in the long run. Also, why aren't the players allowed to transfer out if they want to?
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