Redskins Sign DeSean Jackson

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Everyone knows that Griffin works his ass off. You're missing the point. After all the stuff that he went through last year, some of it self imposed, why come out with a logo of yourself? SMH..I would've just told Adidas.."now's simply not the time for that".. The team did poorly, so did he, now's not the a good time to do it. The minute he has a bad game, you know it's going to come back on him. That's all I'm saying. I don't know of any fans that don't expect players not have a good time. Who's saying that?

Its not like he missed practices to design a logo for himself. Adidas has people who do those logo's, all he does is say ok. Whether he does good or bad, the logo will have no bearing on it. If he has a bad year, nothing would change if he didnt have the logo, he would still have a bad year.

The fact that people think a logo has anything to do with performance just means people are stupid. Its not any athletes fault that people are so brainless to make a connection that doesnt exist.

People seem to forget that RG3 was the second pick. He is going to be massively criticized if he fails with or without a logo or commercials. People still talk about Ryan Leaf, and he never had a ton of picks traded for him (which, of course, RG3 had no control of). Might as well make the money since its going to happen regardless of what actions he does.

[Meks]

it's because we as fans are greedy... we want our tem to do the best so we feel great, and rub it in all the haters faces and our friends family and co-works who like other teams , or dallas or philly... AND ... the BIGGEST reason IMO ... the insane amount of money these players get paid, to play the game. LMAO...

If I was even making VET MIN... bet ur ass i'm focusing on work a helllllllllll of a lot more.

but I don't, I work friggin 60 hour weeks as it is.. get calls emails and texts at home at night .... travel away for business a lot... and avg like 65-70 a year.. I put in a lot of work

[Meks]

but I do agree, everybody deserves to relax and have fun sometimes. I have no problem with it.

[MTK]

Quick takes: RG III logo and more - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

[CRedskinsRule]

I have a question for those worried about Desean Jackson coming back in a year wanting more money (Lotus, this is in your ballpark ).

I know he has done that in the past, but it was with a different organization, and more to my question/point here, a different owner.

One of my arguments why Snyder is a good owner, is he's willing to pay for the talent on his team. Yes he has relied on bad advisors in the past but if a coach and player both were on board with a player, seems like making the money part work isn't the issue.

So my question/thought is - Is it fair to assume that a guy who always wanted money will have those same feelings from a Dan Snyder owned team? I know we aren't going to just restructure to make every player happy on a whim, but have we ever had a player who felt that he was treated badly by this organization?

The examples of players feeling they were treated bad that would come to my mind were Clark, Arrington, Rogers. But every one of those was a case where a coach muddied the waters or like in Rogers case went out of his way to make Rogers miserable (imo)

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I have a question for those worried about Desean Jackson coming back in a year wanting more money (Lotus, this is in your ballpark ).

I know he has done that in the past, but it was with a different organization, and more to my question/point here, a different owner.

One of my arguments why Snyder is a good owner, is he's willing to pay for the talent on his team. Yes he has relied on bad advisors in the past but if a coach and player both were on board with a player, seems like making the money part work isn't the issue.

So my question/thought is - Is it fair to assume that a guy who always wanted money will have those same feelings from a Dan Snyder owned team? I know we aren't going to just restructure to make every player happy on a whim, but have we ever had a player who felt that he was treated badly by this organization?

The examples of players feeling they were treated bad that would come to my mind were Clark, Arrington, Rogers. But every one of those was a case where a coach muddied the waters or like in Rogers case went out of his way to make Rogers miserable (imo)

I think about your question from a different angle: my understanding is that we have had a rep of, "If you wanna get paid, go to Washington." Maybe that rep has changed. But if we do have that rep, I would expect DJax to put that rep to the test to the maximum of his ability. But who knows what he will do.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I think about your question from a different angle: my understanding is that we have had a rep of, "If you wanna get paid, go to Washington." Maybe that rep has changed. But if we do have that rep, I would expect DJax to put that rep to the test to the maximum of his ability. But who knows what he will do.

Well, I am pretty sure the rep changed once Allen came in. If you go to that angle though, the thought generally followed that the players stopped working once they got here or once they got their money. I haven't seen anything to imply Jackson wasn't going to work hard once he did get paid, just that he might slack off if he felt slighted or felt that he was worth more.

[ethat001]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Well, I am pretty sure the rep changed once Allen came in. If you go to that angle though, the thought generally followed that the players stopped working once they got here or once they got their money. I haven't seen anything to imply Jackson wasn't going to work hard once he did get paid, just that he might slack off if he felt slighted or felt that he was worth more.

DJax did NOT get a huge contract, it's actually LESS than what he was making before, and he has something to prove given his injured reputation. It's a three year contract but I think we could dump him after year 2 and have minimal salary cap charges.

Point is, it's dramatically different than the $100 million dollar / $40 million guaranteed Haynesworth deals. That was a big payday for Haynesworth - but DJax's deal is less than he was making.

I have no probs w him taking preplanned vacation. He'll be here soon enough.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

For the fans out there that question why athletes aren't studying film or working on their game 24/7 I ask this... with your free time are you constantly working on improving at your job? Why not? Shouldn't you also be giving up all your free time to bettering yourself for your employer?



I've never understood why fans have these completely insane expectations of athletes, like they're not allowed to take vacations, have a Facebook or Twitter account, or god forbid have any sort of life outside of football, especially during the offseason.



F'ing nuts I tell ya.

Well actually Matty I am spending my day off role playing sales techniques with my family while refreshing myself with the company compliance handbook.
Im going to study well into the night to make up for my time perusing the Warpath.

[skinsfan69]

I think w/ Jackson, it's really no big deal. Personally, if I were starting with a new company and wanted to get off on the right foot, I would cancel the vacation and come in, but that's me. Now if he misses a OTA or mini camp then that's when it should be a story. Missing a week of workouts is non issue.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think w/ Jackson, it's really no big deal. Personally, if I were starting with a new company and wanted to get off on the right foot, I would cancel the vacation and come in, but that's me. Now if he misses a OTA or mini camp then that's when it should be a story. Missing a week of workouts is non issue.

Yeah agreed. I don't think we can equate Jackson missing this week of workouts to us missing our first week at a new job. This is more like Jackson missing the first 45 minutes of orientation meetings on day 1.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah agreed. I don't think we can equate Jackson missing this week of workouts to us missing our first week at a new job. This is more like Jackson missing the first 45 minutes of orientation meetings on day 1.

Or like missing the first class of the semester where the prof hands you the syllabus and basically says see you next time.

Although one year I skipped the first day of chemistry class and because the waiting list was so big for the class I lost my spot, lol.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Or like missing the first class of the semester where the prof hands you the syllabus and basically says see you next time.

Although one year I skipped the first day of chemistry class and because the waiting list was so big for the class I lost my spot, lol.

Apply yourself, Jesse.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think w/ Jackson, it's really no big deal. Personally, if I were starting with a new company and wanted to get off on the right foot, I would cancel the vacation and come in, but that's me. Now if he misses a OTA or mini camp then that's when it should be a story. Missing a week of workouts is non issue.

See, I have the opposite view. If I'm starting a new job, I would inform them ahead of time (prior to me getting hired) that I had plans in place. If they are cool with it, I'm enjoying the hell out of my vacation BECAUSE when I show up at that new job, I'm gonna try to blow them away.

I hear what you're saying though.. The timing was unfortunate, but I really have a hard time criticizing the decision.

[MTK]

If DJ was really just interested in getting paid he would have visited other teams, no?