Paintrain's all encompassing 'discuss all things offseason' thread (Version 2.0)

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Is it possible that Sam is worthy of a roster spot? Dude was pretty damn good at the last level. Gay or not he was getting drafted, and if it weren't for his announcement and the media circus every GM saw coming, he might have gotten drafted earlier.

That explains the Tebow comparison .

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Giantone

That explains the Tebow comparison .

How?

[punch it in]

The media didnt make Tebow a better football player or a worse one. He is what he is. It isnt going to make Sam better or worse either. Tebow got drafted because of his success in college. He obviously did not pan out. Sam might never be an all pro, or maybe he will. He might be a career backup, and he might be cut before he ever sniffs the field. Who knows? I think the comparison with Tebow is dumb.

[Dirtbag59]

Michael Sam's career faces real danger: The Tim Tebow Effect - CBSSports.com

Actually I'm with Giant. The thing is with both Tebow and Sam is that they draw the attention of the type of non-football types that just have an extremely limited understanding of how the NFL works.

So when Tebow was cut by the Jets, to the untrained layman it was because they 'didn't agree with his Christian values and blah blah blah. Look how many games he won.' Never mind he had God awful numbers and a most generous schedule. After all the Broncos won their division at 8-8. Not to mention a throwing motion that made Byron Leftwich look like Favre in terms of release. And in the end even though teams would have been more then willing to give a guy with a work ethic and positive locker room influence like Tebow a shot the attention that comes with a guy who really should be a third string QB is just such an unwelcome distraction. It wasn't Tebow's Christianity that led him out of the league, it was his fanatical followers. Granted Tebows instance on only playing QB didn't help either (see Eric Crouch)

So going forward if anything happens to Sam many untrained laymans will automatically assume, oh The Rams or any other team is anti-gay. No, the guy is a 7th round pick. Even though he was productive in college he doesn't have the physical skill set that makes him a lock for the roster. The good news is though as a DE if he does make the team he can be rotated, unlike QB where if hes taken out for even a single play you end up with a media controversy (See McNabb fitness).

I really hope Sam is successful and I applaud the Rams for drafting him. The problem though is, just like Tebow, we're going to end up with a lot of non-football types making declarations and accusations if he hits a snag before age 34. And maybe not even old age will save Sam from a controversy.

2030 Headline: Rams cut 16 Year Veteran Sam. Save $18 Million in Cap Space

Comments: OMG Rams r s0 against Gheys. Every1 B0ycott th3m.

"Ya I agr33. A m4ssiv3 B0ycott is n 0rd3r"

"Umm, you guys realize he's 40 years old right? Thats kind of old in the NFL."

"Oh s0 ur anti-ghey and u hate 0ld p3pps. YOLO!"

"I didn't say that."

"EVEry1 b0ycott the OlD gai"

Related Article: Marshall Manning to Declare For NFL Draft After Storybook Freshman Year at Tennessee.

[punch it in]

Im not really sure what the two sides are here? Lol. I am not a Sam fan or a hater. Im just pointing out the fact that he and tim tebow may have been or be in the spotlight, but he is going to make it in the NFL depending on what kind of player he turns out to be. Tebow got a chance, and it turned out he wasnt an nfl caliber qb. Sam may or may be an nfl caliber LB, but that has nothing to do with the media or his personal life imo.

[MTK]

Good choice by his camp

Michael Sam reality show on hold | ProFootballTalk

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Good choice by his camp



Michael Sam reality show on hold | ProFootballTalk

Agreed. This guy is 100% dedicated to earning a roster spot imo, and not just taking a spot away from someone else ala Jordan and the Whitesox.
Edit: i just believe if you could get inside Sams head that he believes he is good enough to be a pro, and at this point atleast could really care less about anything else. Imo he is 100% deserving of a chance due to his college career.

[SirLK26]

Colts' Robert Mathis suspended four games for PED - NFL.com

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Good choice by his camp

Michael Sam reality show on hold | ProFootballTalk

Cool...........I applaud his....camps decision

[skinsfaninok]

Sam wont make the team

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Sam wont make the team

With that loaded talent at the DE/OLB spot, it's highly doubtful he'll make the Rams roster.

[Chico23231]

Buffalo Bills fan gets owner's face tattooed on arm - ESPN

Lol who's ready to get Danny?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Buffalo Bills fan gets owner's face tattooed on arm - ESPN

Lol who's ready to get Danny?

I have consulted with my camp and our official response is F*** that.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I have consulted with my camp and our official response is F*** that.

lol , how about JKC ?(with the hat)

[Chico23231]

New England Patriots could be coming to Richmond - Richmond Times-Dispatch

That would be pretty cool. Get a chance to see Hoodie and Bratty