Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread

[njant]

commanders also are interviewing greg roman i just heard for O.C. position

[sdskinsfan2001]

We're gonna set the record for most candidates interviewed.

[skinsfan69]

Why are the Eagles better than us? They have drafted QB's. They drafted Wentz, he played well for them, flamed out, then they went ahead and drafted someone else when Wentz was the entrenched starter. That is the difference. They had to balls to draft a QB in the 2nd round when they already had a guy whom they paid.

I keep saying it but you simply have to draft Qb's just about every year. Even when you have a starter you take them.

Hurts has come a long way. He is now a legit top half of the league starter. I didn't think it would happen but he has proved a lot of people wrong.

So until we can get a GM in here who has that way of thinking it really doesn't matter. It is a QB driven league and if you can get that guy then that is the way and the only way you have long term success.

[Chico23231]

Last night reminded me again about what our focus should be this offseason. Obviously we need to keep swinging on QB, but Oline, Oline Oline Oline Oline

Chiefs and Philly were great on both sides of the Oline. Awesome to watch

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Last night reminded me again about what our focus should be this offseason. Obviously we need to keep swinging on QB, but Oline, Oline Oline Oline Oline

Chiefs and Philly were great on both sides of the Oline. Awesome to watch

Orlando Brown Jr is available to the highest bidder. Some big time FA want the money but also location. He seems like he is CREAM mind set, which is good for us if interested which I dont think we will be, conservative moves while ownership is figured out

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Chiefs have a weird payroll on paper for next year, IM sure it will get massaged. 7m cap space next year but really top heavy

Mahomes 49M cap hit
Clark 28 (invisible in SB)
Jones 28 (invisible in SB)
Thunney a fucking Guard 22

Kelce 14
Reid 12
Valdes-Scanting 11

then a guy at 5, 2 guys at 3 .. rest of team is under 3M

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/kansas-city-chiefs

We have 8m but once we cut Carson, we will have 34 M in cap

Allen highest cap hit at 21M
7 guys making btw 10-13M
10 guys making btw 3-9M

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/washington-commanders

Things will change but that is some serious disparity

[Giantone]

NY Giants .............

2023-Team Cap Space: $47,863,739

2024-Team Cap Space: $179,893,543

2025-Team Cap Space: $247,506,481



CAP jumps for all teams in the next two seasons.

[punch it in]

I just want Snyder to sell the damn team im getting nervous lol.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Raiders Cut Derek Carr; Should Commanders Sign?

https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/ne...ntz-ron-rivera

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Raiders Cut Derek Carr; Should Commanders Sign?

https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/ne...ntz-ron-rivera

Yes .. if we were interested in legit taking a chance at winning in the next 1-3 years. Allen and McLaurin will be 28 when the next season starts. Carr would be the first somewhat capable QB we have brought in since Alex Smith. Fitz and Wentz were always long shot consolation prizes that we knew probably wouldnt work out.

With the ownership issues it seems like we wont be making a play for one of the 4 first round graded QBs ... so we just punt on the 2024 season before it ever starts .. thinking being smart and conservative in 2024 somehow sets up for 2025 season

Loser talk .. thinking next year will be different. Next year wont be different if we dont get a legit QB.

[Chico23231]

Could imagine the loser offense of Derek Carr and Greg Roman? Lol

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Could imagine the loser offense of Derek Carr and Greg Roman? Lol

Yeah youre right.

What was I thinking .. how could a perennial top 15 QB possibly help this bottom 10 offense. Check his stats past 5 years. Even in this down year hes 14th QBR. 2021 he threw for 4,804 yds.

This fanbase turning its nose up on Carr bc hes not a Burrow or Mahomes .. it blows my mind. Reminds me of the Kirk Cousins when fans balked at paying the going rate for a top 15 QB .. because hes wasnt Aaron Rodgers.

Functional franchise 31 year old QBs dont hit the open market often ... we are a QB starved franchise with WR weapons and a D ..... but we think we get to be picky and turn down an 8 because we are waiting for a big tittied but not fat bombshell 10 to magically appear in our life and say "this, this franchise with a horrible owner, horrible field, horrible organization the last 2 decades, zero track record of success in almost 30 years .. I chose you Commanders!"

Funny part .. all the fans clamoring for Howell and not Carr will be screaming for Rons head half way through the season if Howell plays like a 5th rounder.

C'est la vie.

We learned nothing from the Cousins saga.

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Yeah youre right.

What was I thinking .. how could a perennial top 15 QB possibly help this bottom 10 offense. Check his stats past 5 years. Even in this down year hes 14th QBR. 2021 he threw for 4,804 yds.

This fanbase turning its nose up on Carr bc hes not a Burrow or Mahomes .. it blows my mind. Reminds me of the Kirk Cousins when fans balked at paying the going rate for a top 15 QB .. because hes wasnt Aaron Rodgers.

Functional franchise 31 year old QBs dont hit the open market often ... we are a QB starved franchise with WR weapons and a D ..... but we think we get to be picky and turn down an 8 because we are waiting for a big tittied but not fat bombshell 10 to magically appear in our life and say "this, this franchise with a horrible owner, horrible field, horrible organization the last 2 decades, zero track record of success in almost 30 years .. I chose you Commanders!"

Funny part .. all the fans clamoring for Howell and not Carr will be screaming for Rons head half way through the season if Howell plays like a 5th rounder.

C'est la vie.

We learned nothing from the Cousins saga.

LOL! Well said!!! I agree 100%! What we do know...is that this franchise, regardless of the owner, hasn't drafted even a REALLY good QB, let alone a franchise QB, in over 40 years...at some point luck in that area HAS to change right???

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Yeah youre right.

What was I thinking .. how could a perennial top 15 QB possibly help this bottom 10 offense. Check his stats past 5 years. Even in this down year hes 14th QBR. 2021 he threw for 4,804 yds.

This fanbase turning its nose up on Carr bc hes not a Burrow or Mahomes .. it blows my mind. Reminds me of the Kirk Cousins when fans balked at paying the going rate for a top 15 QB .. because hes wasnt Aaron Rodgers.

Functional franchise 31 year old QBs dont hit the open market often ... we are a QB starved franchise with WR weapons and a D ..... but we think we get to be picky and turn down an 8 because we are waiting for a big tittied but not fat bombshell 10 to magically appear in our life and say "this, this franchise with a horrible owner, horrible field, horrible organization the last 2 decades, zero track record of success in almost 30 years .. I chose you Commanders!"

Funny part .. all the fans clamoring for Howell and not Carr will be screaming for Rons head half way through the season if Howell plays like a 5th rounder.

C'est la vie.

We learned nothing from the Cousins saga.

I think Carr could work in a west coast offense…but if Greg Roman is the O coordinator, that’s a water and oil match. Roman gonna need a stronger Oline and someone athletic behind center. And you got a 3 wr set offense with a your primary TE who can’t block…I don’t think the personnel matches the scheme.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Yeah youre right.

What was I thinking .. how could a perennial top 15 QB possibly help this bottom 10 offense. Check his stats past 5 years. Even in this down year hes 14th QBR. 2021 he threw for 4,804 yds.

This fanbase turning its nose up on Carr bc hes not a Burrow or Mahomes .. it blows my mind. Reminds me of the Kirk Cousins when fans balked at paying the going rate for a top 15 QB .. because hes wasnt Aaron Rodgers.

Functional franchise 31 year old QBs dont hit the open market often ... we are a QB starved franchise with WR weapons and a D ..... but we think we get to be picky and turn down an 8 because we are waiting for a big tittied but not fat bombshell 10 to magically appear in our life and say "this, this franchise with a horrible owner, horrible field, horrible organization the last 2 decades, zero track record of success in almost 30 years .. I chose you Commanders!"

Funny part .. all the fans clamoring for Howell and not Carr will be screaming for Rons head half way through the season if Howell plays like a 5th rounder.

C'est la vie.

We learned nothing from the Cousins saga.

Out of Carr's 9 season's he has had 3 winning ones and that is only if you count his 8-8 season. He is a stat QB but not a winner. Add in he'll want what the Raiders were paying him , 40 million

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Out of Carr's 9 season's he has had 3 winning ones and that is only if you count his 8-8 season. He is a stat QB but not a winner. Add in he'll want what the Raiders were paying him , 40 million

All that means is he hasn't been on a complete team.

Give me a "stat" QB over a QB that can just barely get it done if everything aligns perfectly for them - including luck. Because that's what we've been blessed with here for an eternity.