Redskins Patriots game thread.

[GusFrerotte]

All in all a great game!!!!! THomas and Kelly are going to be exciting players to watch this season. The first team O line is very solid!!!!! JC shook the rust off and kicked some ass. Loved the 4 yard TD run. He took over. That is what I want to see!!!!! For the first time in a long time I have reason to be optimisitic about our team, not just the homer type optimism either. Thing is can we look this good for an entire 16 game season? Can't wait to see the Skins again up here in the D. I hope we can put up 30+ pts against the Lions this time.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Can we agree on this, the future looks pretty bright for the WR corps.

I do agree...it is nice to have not only 2 but now 3 legit young guy alll big guys that will be taking over the reigns.

I see it this way....MOSS #1, Marko Mitchell # 2....ARE in the slot... and the slacker #2's pissed off on the bench waiting for an opportunity.

I would love for Mitchell to get significant starter reps...is is likely?
No, but this guy brings it on game day...his touches are TDs....the guy is money...who give a crap...Cooley is Money...we love him, Santana is Money....what the freak?
Portis is amazing....Marko Mitchell seems to be a playmaker.
If I were Zorn, I'd line him up #2 in the last preseason game to see what he can do.

Devon Thomas made ok improvement, albeit slow and steady.
Malcolm Kelly, who had a leg up on #2, went backwards, missing a couple key receptions, one being a TD....however, his ability and progress has been steady.

The reality is this.
We wont see a significant improvement in passing game stats until mid season unless marko mitchell is engaged immediately within the final week of preseason...in my opinion

[GusFrerotte]

Kelly will get it done, so will Thomas. Thomas already seems to have made great strides since being a total dumbass last season. Kelly did drop some "gimme" types, but still he has potential yet unfilled.

[SFREDSKIN]

I would carry 4 WR this year Moss, Kelly, Thomas and Marko (Randle-El is the odd man out) and give the roster spot to Mason in the RB area. I like Buzbee and would get rid of Wynn is a spot can be found.

[skinsnut]

I will say it again, since I slammed Zorn mid-seaon last year.

Zorn adapted to Campbell strengths...deep ball, play action....I'd never thought I'd see it...it resulted in a 7-0 start....this aint no west-coast crap.

Now...I am skeptical that one preseason game adjustment means much considering he didn't adust at all last season but based on JC's comments on how thrilled he was to go deep on the Steelers last week....combined with the amazing deep success with Santana's acrobatic deep catch abilitiy plus enzone pass interference...hopefully Zorn gets it....
The redskins team is built for one thing....
Defense
Running
Deep passing play action.

Like it or not, this is a Gibbs squad.
We need to adjust the system to maximize the capabilities of our player.
Kudos to Jim Zorn for not trying to force a square peg through a round hole...
Nice adjustment MR Zorn!

you need to do more work Mr Blache.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I would carry 4 WR this year Moss, Kelly, Thomas and Marko (Randle-El is the odd man out) and give the roster spot to Mason in the RB area. I like Buzbee and would get rid of Wynn is a spot can be found.

So how many veterans should we cut to be able to handle Randle El's $7 million cap hit?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

I will say it again, since I slammed Zorn mid-seaon last year.

Zorn adapted to Campbell strengths...deep ball, play action....I'd never thought I'd see it...it resulted in a 7-0 start....this aint no west-coast crap.

Now...I am skeptical that one preseason game adjustment means much considering he didn't adust at all last season but based on JC's comments on how thrilled he was to go deep on the Steelers last week....combined with the amazing deep success with Santana's acrobatic deep catch abilitiy plus enzone pass interference...hopefully Zorn gets it....
The redskins team is built for one thing....
Defense
Running
Deep passing play action.

Like it or not, this is a Gibbs squad.
We need to adjust the system to maximize the capabilities of our player.
Kudos to Jim Zorn for not trying to force a square peg through a round hole...
Nice adjustment MR Zorn!

you need to do more work Mr Blache.

nice call, I remember last year thinking where the hell is the play action?

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

So how many veterans should we cut to be able to handle Randle El's $7 million cap hit?

Cant be done...simple solutions, no option , keep 5 receivers,
Moss, ARE, Kelly, Thomas, Marko-pollo...no discussion.

[MTK]

I'm not tossing in the towel on ARE yet. I think he's still going to be a solid contributor.

[GusFrerotte]

Yeah keep ARE. The young guys are only going to help out his game.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Yeah keep ARE. The young guys are only going to help out his game.

ARE is at worst the #3 receiver on the squad...the young guys just haven't proved anything yet....but wow...marko?
I am waiting for him to screw up...but he just doesn't do it...the guy is like cooley in the endzone....oh yeah...dont we have probs in the red zone?
how about Cooely and Marko left and right?

I am frankly a littlle sad about Davis just being vanilla at TE so far

[MTK]

I was skeptical of Marko initially but I've been impressed with him the last 2 weeks. He just looks like a NFL WR in the way he runs routes, catches, and blocks. He's got that "it" factor.

[GusFrerotte]

That is what I mean by the young guys helping ARE. They all have potential and will make great strides as the season goes. Secondaries won't be able to double Moss or ARE now, as another WR threat will exist.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I was skeptical of Marko initially but I've been impressed with him the last 2 weeks. He just looks like a NFL WR in the way he runs routes, catches, and blocks. He's got that "it" factor.

Agreed....liking this guy. Still say he looks alot like a wannabe R. Moss out there.

[skinsnut]

There are significant improvements roster wise if they keep Chris Wilson at olb and Marko Mitchell at WR and Marcus Mason at RB.
Oline and kicker are still up for grabs as well as #3 QB.
Chase still seems way more NFL stable to me than Colt...but we wont know until game #4.

Horton, Barnes are soliid, Tryon is still on the fence, Tryon has improved but is not as good as westbrook...as crazy as that seems....our kicker is up for grabs...Mike Williams will not likley make the cut at this point.
We have signifiant Pass rushiing dept probs at OT.
Samuals has declined...not to mention RT
Our backup TE is stilll weak due to reps issues.
Our Olb's have major issues.
Our premium CB declined significantly which requres safety support...which is sad....Deangelo aint no healty Shaun Springs
(I see us drafting a CB or LOT #1 draft pick next yr.)

I am really suprised at the adjustment zorn has made to go deep.
A MAJOR one game improvement!

The other issus is this....our offense needs significant misdiriecrion, reverses, screens, play action, shotgun, hurry up, etc

Standard offense scheming, outperforming a professional defensive scheme is not enough to out produce a team optimize for maximizing points