Guard watches coast for oil slick's first wave

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by firstdown

From what I have read it seems that all the reasearch has gone into drilling these things but no research has gone into stopping a leak and safty. We can come up with a way to cap these things its just the money (the oil companies money) has not been used to do so and the goverment has not forced them to do the research. If the gov. said the only way you can drill is to come up with a safty devise to shut them down and a back up syetem if the first one fails the oil companies would find ways to shut them down. What has happened is the oil companies have thrown money around to both parties and they have turned a blind eye.

Last week i was on vacation and i was piss drunk and could only find MSNBC on the cable we had. I ended up watching some of Maddow.....

So i found myself completely agreeing with her. She was talking about how since Exxon Valdese the clean up measures have not improved at all. I think its been 20+ years and they still clean oil spills up the same way. They showed the booms not really working and being held in place w. bamboo. This is America, we shouldnt use bamboo for anything but furniture, office plants, and pissing off neighbors. I only watched about 30 mins but i didnt despise her as i passed out. I felt a little funny the next day kind of like I just slept with a ugly chick, but had that “well at least I wrapped up” feeling.

Rachel Maddow: How Not to Respond to an Oil Spill -- Booming Fails on Louisiana Coast | Video Cafe

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Last week i was on vacation and i was piss drunk and could only find MSNBC on the cable we had. I ended up watching some of Maddow.....

So i found myself completely agreeing with her. She was talking about how since Exxon Valdese the clean up measures have not improved at all. I think its been 20+ years and they still clean oil spills up the same way. They showed the booms not really working and being held in place w. bamboo. This is America, we shouldnt use bamboo for anything but furniture, office plants, and pissing off neighbors. I only watched about 30 mins but i didnt despise her as i passed out. I felt a little funny the next day kind of like I just slept with a ugly chick, but had that “well at least I wrapped up” feeling.

Rachel Maddow: How Not to Respond to an Oil Spill -- Booming Fails on Louisiana Coast | Video Cafe

If you're passing out to Maddow that must've been a really bad night on the vacation, sorry to hear that.

[firstdown]

Why do Obama, BP refuse to use most effective method of oil cleanup?


Here is a lame explaination of why they are not using oil tankers.
Allen Explains Why Oil-Sucking Tankers Aren’t Being Used - Political Punch

After a 1993 oil spill in the Persian Gulf, empty oil tankers were used to reclaim oil from the water’s surface. In my “This Week” interview, I asked Admiral Thad Allen why those techniques are not being used in the Gulf of Mexico, and he explained:
“We’ve actually talked to those folks. There are a couple of issues with that. Number one, the tankers actually have to be modified. They are not ready to go right now. Number two, we don’t know what those modifications will do to the stability of the vessels and how they operate and number thee, the area of operations is very, very different. We’ve got anywhere from 20 to 30 vessels within one square mile over the top of that well at any particular time, managing remotely operating vehicles, doing the drilling of the relief well and so forth, so I’m not sure it’s the right application of that right now.”


1: why not have someone finding out what it will takes to get them modified.
2: If your worried about stability you could just ask the people who used the tankers in another oil spill dumb ass.

Also if he talked to those people as he said he did couldn't they have answered those questions.

[joethiesmanfan]

When you have something as valuable as the Gulf is to America you do not put it in harm's way. I repeat, you do not put it in harm's way. Forget the oil. The people are crying so much that makes it obvious there should be no more drilling in the gulf. That's one well that did all this damage.

[firstdown]

So now Obama is trying to act like he is doing something. Hey, Obama its 50 days late. So now we are accepting the help from others that was offered over 50 day ago. Wow what a leader we have here. He has no clue what to do or how to lead. I guess tomorrow night he will have some fancy speech about how he is going to get BP working on this mess or else. It would not surprise me one bit if he does not say in some form about taking over BP. Maybe he can talk about kicking some ass when its his dumb ass that needs kicking. Oh and we know the old blame George Bush is also coming tomorrow night.

[CRedskinsRule]

He won't "blame George Bush" specifically, but I wouldn't be surprised to hear language like - before I took office we were in a war for oil, so we had to look closer to home- or some other non blaming blame filled statement that diverts responsibility from his administration. That said, there is enough blame to go around, so I hope he focuses on future solutions, not past blame.

[joethiesmanfan]

That oil spill is getting boring. Wake me up when the oil giant BP is no more. Big Oil gone how you like that Republicans?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

That oil spill is getting boring. Wake me up when the oil giant BP is no more. Big Oil gone how you like that Republicans?

Ah yes, a BP bankruptcy would be productive....prior to getting this mess cleaned up.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Ah yes, a BP bankruptcy would be productive....prior to getting this mess cleaned up.

Can you say "bailout"?

[firstdown]

Well last night was the first time in about a week or so that I sat down and surfed the news ch. from Fox, CNN, MSNBC, Etc... and all pretty much are saying the same thing. BP is not getting the job done and Obama has done just about nothing. The different ch. had their different spin on the subject but they all where saying the same thing. One news source listed all of the outside help thats been offered that we have turned down up until the past week and why we have turned down all these offers makes no sense at all.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

That oil spill is getting boring. Wake me up when the oil giant BP is no more. Big Oil gone how you like that Republicans?

I know you are bored with it, but now that the Feds have approved burning the oil rather than capturing it, how does that fit with your earlier mindset that BP was avoiding shutting it, because they wanted to capture the oil for re-sale.

[MTK]

Unbelievable stuff here

Oil Executives Try to Explain Differences From BP - NYTimes.com

Mr. Markey added: “In preparation for this hearing, the committee reviewed the oil spill safety response plans for all of the companies here today. What we found was that these five companies have response plans that are virtually identical. The plans cite identical response capabilities and tout identical ineffective equipment. In some cases, they use the exact same words. We found that all of these companies, not just BP, made the exact same assurances.”

Like BP, Mr. Markey said, three other companies include references to protecting walruses, which have not called the Gulf of Mexico home for three million years.

“Two other plans are such dead ringers for BP’s that they list a phone number for the same long-dead expert,” he said.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Unbelievable stuff here

Oil Executives Try to Explain Differences From BP - NYTimes.com

See thats what gets me about this whole thing and why we can point to both parties over the past 40 or more year not requiring the oil companies to have better equipment and plans for if we have a spill. To me that was really the only jod the goverment had in off shore drilling. Safty and making sure the oil companies had plans and equipment to deal with oil spills.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I know you are bored with it, but now that the Feds have approved burning the oil rather than capturing it, how does that fit with your earlier mindset that BP was avoiding shutting it, because they wanted to capture the oil for re-sale.

You right they been trying to get that oil all along, but I was wrong they were trying to shut it too. They just can't it's too deep for them. Their pockets are not even deep enough to plug that hole.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I know you are bored with it, but now that the Feds have approved burning the oil rather than capturing it, how does that fit with your earlier mindset that BP was avoiding shutting it, because they wanted to capture the oil for re-sale.

They have been burning the oil off for over a month now and maybe even longer.