Guard watches coast for oil slick's first wave

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Your idea would indeed work if it wasn't for the fact that the well casing itself was damaged during the top-kill operation.

The actual well casing itself is now damaged, and oil is leaking from it up through the sea floor. That's why BP gave up on the idea of installing a new blowout preventer. The pressure from having the wellhead suddenly closed would blowout what is left of the well casing, leaving a leak way worse and with no way to fix it.

And to joetheismanfan -- all of your points are correct. When Bill Nye the science guy was on TV, he explained that even though wells only produce typically for 5 to 10 years, the level of oil in this macondo well, while not infinite, has the potential to flow for the next 100 years.

A relief well is also not a sure bet. The government's private scientists have said in the past that drilling a relief well at this depth, has only about a 30 to 40% chance of success. We all universally agree that what has happened is beyond the limits of man and even science...at this point, the only person who will fix the gulf is GOD. I'm not trying to be a religious nut, but that's the truth....

Thanks Snake. I didn't know they cracked the casing. Jackasses. Who tries to shove golf balls down a pipe shooting out oil at hundreds of lbs psi? They can still put on a pipe and get a good 75% of the product. I'm not willing to give up and let God be the answer. God helps those who help themselves.

[Trample the Elderly]

Oh, when in doubt. Blame the government.

Walter Williams

[MTK]

You need to get down there and help out. It's amazing they haven't thought of that yet.

Somewhere Rush is applauding you.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

You need to get down there and help out. It's amazing they haven't thought of that yet.

Well I tried Matty. If you can't see how simple it really is then . . . Well what can I say? Do you like your fish with 10W40 or 30?

I don't listen to Republicrat hacks.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Well I tried Matty. If you can't see how simple it really is then . . . Well what can I say? Do you like your fish with 10W40 or 30?

I don't listen to Republicrat hacks.

You should start an oil spill cleanup company...maybe your slogan can be "Simple Solution from a Simple Man?"

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

You should start an oil spill cleanup company...maybe your slogan can be "Simple Solution from a Simple Man?"

Poor thing! You're like the guy from NASA who I built a house for. He was a genius when it came to engineering, but the poor bastard couldn't even change his tire. I'm sure a double dose of quantitative easing would fix the oil leak.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Poor thing! You're like the guy from NASA who I built a house for. He was a genius when it came to engineering, but the poor bastard couldn't even change his tire. I'm sure a double dose of quantitative easing would fix the oil leak.

So does the NASA guy also dabble in monetary policy?

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Poor thing! You're like the guy from NASA who I built a house for. He was a genius when it came to engineering, but the poor bastard couldn't even change his tire. I'm sure a double dose of quantitative easing would fix the oil leak.

fed's next move is to ease not tighten says michael pento: Tech Ticker, Yahoo! Finance=


I cant believe you are posh West Ender. I live in the South Side now, but since moving to Richmond ive lived in the fan until about a year and 1/2 ago.

I hate nothing more than trying to sweat a pipe so i can somewhat sympathizes with the current fix attempts. So I look at it like its hard for me attempt dyi plumbing since I have extremely limited experience. I don’t think anyone has expertise in fixing a underwater ocean well, so its hard for anyone working in those conditions.

But in writing this I just realized what has saved me countless hours and headache/heartache:

http://www.sharkbite.com/

Honestly, why cant they make one of these suckers as a temporary quick fix while drilling the relief well?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Poor thing! You're like the guy from NASA who I built a house for. He was a genius when it came to engineering, but the poor bastard couldn't even change his tire. I'm sure a double dose of quantitative easing would fix the oil leak.

Ahh you're one of those "he's never worked hard in his life" guys?

[MTK]

BP Reinstalls Cap on Gulf Oil Leak, Intercept Well on Track - BusinessWeek

They're saying this morning the relief well is on track... but at this point I really don't have much faith in what BP says

[budw38]

No way a wave would destroy all of Florida , the wave would have to be close to 20,000 ft high , and would need much more sustained wake/power to travel across 300 miles of land . These types of waves usually travel up to five miles inland .

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by budw38

No way a wave would destroy all of Florida , the wave would have to be close to 20,000 ft high , and would need much more sustained wake/power to travel across 300 miles of land . These types of waves usually travel up to five miles inland .

For what it's worth, i dont think that scenario would happen, even though its scientifically possible.

The wave though, would have some power driving it, as they just said last night on TV that the undersea collapse and subsequent pressure explosion would be 2.5 times the force of the Chernobyl nPP explosion.

Even if this stuff never happens, and i pray it won't, it's scary that this scope of a disaster is now scientifically possible, when 3 months ago BP told all of their lies, said the leak was only 3,000 barrels a day, blah blah blah. Now their disaster they caused could potentially kill millions of people, ruin the gulf permanantly, and now destroy most of the entire state of florida.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

For what it's worth, i dont think that scenario would happen, even though its scientifically possible.

The wave though, would have some power driving it, as they just said last night on TV that the undersea collapse and subsequent pressure explosion would be 2.5 times the force of the Chernobyl nPP explosion.

Even if this stuff never happens, and i pray it won't, it's scary that this scope of a disaster is now scientifically possible, when 3 months ago BP told all of their lies, said the leak was only 3,000 barrels a day, blah blah blah. Now their disaster they caused could potentially kill millions of people, ruin the gulf permanantly, and now destroy most of the entire state of florida.

Im not an expert on science , but for the wave / water to maintain enough energy to travel across the entire state , I doubt is possible . I would guess that 20 miles inland would be max . Not to argue with you on this , I hope nothing close ever happens . Oil is a natural commodity that has leaked from our ocean floors for thousands of years , so this just make things much worse because of the amount and location .... I say waterboard the CEO and all guilty parties .

[firstdown]

Why doesn't Obama just give this oil skimming ship a free pass by executive order. The EPA has not given it the OK to skim the oil and they also are holding it up because it does not fly an American flag. Here is the part of the article where Obama could step in and let this ship start sucking up oil.


"A large-scale disaster needs a large-scale solution," Su told a crowd of reporters, shipping executives and regulators.

A Whale could handle 500,000 barrels of oily water a day, or slightly less than what all the skimmers now in the Gulf have gathered in more than 60 days on the job, Su said.

A no-brainer? Not quite.

Because the vessel is Taiwanese and was built in South Korea, it needs an exemption from the Jones Act, a federal law requiring commercial ships doing business in U.S. coastal waters to be American-flagged.

Then there are environmental concerns. Because the ship would discharge water back into the Gulf, albeit after much of the oil had been skimmed away, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency must go along with the deal.

Compounding the problem is that A Whale has never actually processed oily water before - though it did pass a recent test in Portugal, where a foaming agent was sucked into the ship's bowels at sea and "did quite nicely," said Bob Grantham, an executive with TMT Group.


Massive oil-skimming ship makes stop in Norfolk | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Why doesn't Obama just give this oil skinning ship a free pass by excutive order. The EPA has not given it the OK to skim the oil and they also are holding it up because it does not fly an American flag. Here is the part of the article where Obama could step in and let this ship start sucking up oil.


"A large-scale disaster needs a large-scale solution," Su told a crowd of reporters, shipping executives and regulators.

A Whale could handle 500,000 barrels of oily water a day, or slightly less than what all the skimmers now in the Gulf have gathered in more than 60 days on the job, Su said.

A no-brainer? Not quite.

Because the vessel is Taiwanese and was built in South Korea, it needs an exemption from the Jones Act, a federal law requiring commercial ships doing business in U.S. coastal waters to be American-flagged.

Then there are environmental concerns. Because the ship would discharge water back into the Gulf, albeit after much of the oil had been skimmed away, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency must go along with the deal.

Compounding the problem is that A Whale has never actually processed oily water before - though it did pass a recent test in Portugal, where a foaming agent was sucked into the ship's bowels at sea and "did quite nicely," said Bob Grantham, an executive with TMT Group.


Massive oil-skimming ship makes stop in Norfolk | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

Okay stop the oil and destroy the environment, like them fake ass sand berms. A 36 inch pipe. Whatever? Everyone is desperate drawing at straws. Should have though about all that when BP was sending them checks. EPA is here for a reason. Them foolsd trying to save the beach they don't care nothing about the fishing or the wild life. Lay down with oil companies you catch spills. Florida should be okay eff Lousiana, Missisippi , and Alabama (because they still want to drill, Florida doesn't want that crap around them).