Taylor Effing Heinicke

skinsfaninok · 11-28-2021, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

What stat or evidence of that is there? Seems like he is middle of the pack in that respect.

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He's 18 / 48 on throws 20+ yards downfield. Pretty bad

CRedskinsRule · 11-28-2021, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He's 18 / 48 on throws 20+ yards downfield. Pretty bad

According to NFL stats he is tied with Big Ben with 29 completions for 20+ yards. Baker Mayfield has 30.

I know that may not be the same stat you are quoting, but I am also pretty sure most qbs completion on passes over 20+ downfield are low. They are generally low percentage passes.

I could not find the particular stat for comparison rankings though. (x passes complete out of y passes thrown)

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skinsfaninok · 11-28-2021, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

According to NFL stats he is tied with Big Ben with 29 completions for 20+ yards. Baker Mayfield has 30.

I know that may not be the same stat you are quoting, but I am also pretty sure most qbs completion on passes over 20+ downfield are low. They are generally low percentage passes.

I could not find the particular stat for comparison rankings though. (x passes complete out of y passes thrown)

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The one I have in 20+ in air, I agree with you though, it's not all about the deepball and its rare to hit on those. I'm a TH fan and hope he keeps getting better

rocnrik · 11-28-2021, 07:22 PM

How do you measure weak arm .. seriously do they have long ball contest , fastest throw etc .. I know TH has a flaw that a lot of QB’s have , they throw off there back foot .. but in the heat of the play maybe that’s all they can do .. so what’s he gonna do tell the coach I took the sack because I couldn’t step into it .. Some of the best Teams have short to medium pass game that relies on timing backed by a solid run game ..

MTK · 11-29-2021, 12:42 PM

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How do you measure weak arm .. seriously do they have long ball contest , fastest throw etc .. I know TH has a flaw that a lot of QB’s have , they throw off there back foot .. but in the heat of the play maybe that’s all they can do .. so what’s he gonna do tell the coach I took the sack because I couldn’t step into it .. Some of the best Teams have short to medium pass game that relies on timing backed by a solid run game ..

At the combine they can measure things like velocity/spin rate on the ball.

Mostly it's just an eye ball test. Not hard to see the ball doesn't exactly jump off his hand vs someone like Josh Allen let's say.

skinsfaninok · 11-29-2021, 01:30 PM

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At the combine they can measure things like velocity/spin rate on the ball.

Mostly it's just an eye ball test. Not hard to see the ball doesn't exactly jump off his hand vs someone like Josh Allen let's say.

It's not hard at all to see, you really don't even need A22.. He floats the ball more than anyone else. it's not a knock on the guy but the truth is the truth.. He's also not very accurate which is the bigger concern..

sdskinsfan2001 · 11-29-2021, 01:33 PM

Heinicke about to serve up some seachicken soup tonight.

SunnySide · 11-29-2021, 04:58 PM

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Heinicke about to serve up some seachicken soup tonight.

One guarantee is that he will give it his all, every cell in his body goes 110%.

It may sound cheesy but heart wins you that extra final inch and that one inch is the difference between winning and losing.

Im getting pumped up. I love sports.

MTK · 11-29-2021, 01:58 PM

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It's not hard at all to see, you really don't even need A22.. He floats the ball more than anyone else. it's not a knock on the guy but the truth is the truth.. He's also not very accurate which is the bigger concern..

I honestly don't know why this continues to be a discussion with some fans. He doesn't have an ideal NFL arm. Like you said it's not a knock, it's just the truth. He can obviously still play at this level, but at times his lack of arm strength is an issue for him on certain throws.

CRedskinsRule · 11-29-2021, 10:09 AM

Tough stretch to get to the playoffs, but yeah if he leads the team and stays healthy he should go into camp #1.

I wonder if playing time will help him understand the value of camp?

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skinsfaninok · 11-29-2021, 12:08 PM

To answer the Lamar downfield Q

He's 17/51 on throws 20+ yards in the air

CRedskinsRule · 11-29-2021, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

To answer the Lamar downfield Q

He's 17/51 on throws 20+ yards in the air

So he and Taylor are basically the same ratio (17/51 vs 18/48) I would have thought Lamar would have been closer to 50%.

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skinsfaninok · 11-29-2021, 12:37 PM

yeah both are bottom of the league in that area but not a huge surprise on either

CRedskinsRule · 11-29-2021, 02:07 PM

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yeah both are bottom of the league in that area but not a huge surprise on either

One more question if you are able to look it up, who has the best ratio/% and what is it?

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skinsfaninok · 11-29-2021, 04:42 PM

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One more question if you are able to look it up, who has the best ratio/% and what is it?

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Murray - 22 / 36
Cousins - 20 / 42
Josh Allen - 26 /50
Herbert 17 /35
Z Wilson - 14 /27

Are the top 5 % wise

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11-28-2021, 07:22 PM	#4
rocnrik Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,875	Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke How do you measure weak arm .. seriously do they have long ball contest , fastest throw etc .. I know TH has a flaw that a lot of QB’s have , they throw off there back foot .. but in the heat of the play maybe that’s all they can do .. so what’s he gonna do tell the coach I took the sack because I couldn’t step into it .. Some of the best Teams have short to medium pass game that relies on timing backed by a solid run game ..

11-29-2021, 01:33 PM	#7
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 42 Posts: 20,802	Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke Heinicke about to serve up some seachicken soup tonight. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

11-29-2021, 10:09 AM	#10
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,737	Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke Tough stretch to get to the playoffs, but yeah if he leads the team and stays healthy he should go into camp #1. I wonder if playing time will help him understand the value of camp? Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

11-29-2021, 12:08 PM	#11
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke To answer the Lamar downfield Q He's 17/51 on throws 20+ yards in the air __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

11-29-2021, 12:37 PM	#13
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: Taylor Effing Heinicke yeah both are bottom of the league in that area but not a huge surprise on either __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

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