Commanders Post at The Warpath  

Home | Forums | Donate | Shop




Go Back   Commanders Post at The Warpath > Commanders Football > Locker Room Main Forum

Locker Room Main Forum Commanders Football & NFL discussion


2011 NFL Draft

Locker Room Main Forum


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-08-2011, 05:28 PM   #511
30gut
Playmaker
 
30gut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,323
Re: 2011 NFL Draft

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotus View Post
I think that the NT is the most important position in a 3-4. What this means is that you want more than a "serviceable" NT IMHO. To have a dominant 3-4 means having a dominant NT, not a "serviceable" NT. Sure, you can have a vanilla joe for rotational depth, but your #1 guy should be a monster.
NT followed by RDE as a very close second.
You gotta have at least 1 guy up front that can consistently beat 1-v-1 blocking to the point where they can command a double team.
30gut is offline  

Advertisements
Old 03-08-2011, 06:57 PM   #512
SkinzWin
Playmaker
 
SkinzWin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 3,543
Re: 2011 NFL Draft

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotus View Post
I think that the NT is the most important position in a 3-4. What this means is that you want more than a "serviceable" NT IMHO. To have a dominant 3-4 means having a dominant NT, not a "serviceable" NT. Sure, you can have a vanilla joe for rotational depth, but your #1 guy should be a monster.
I totally agree with you. I guess I did not specify enough. I think that we should get a serviceable NT for this year. You can't fix every position in one year. It is going to take time. Unless a miracle happens we aren't going deep in the playoffs next year anyway.

Don't waste a draft pick on an important position, especially a pick that reaches, when we have tons of other needs at other positions and could probably get the BPA at another position instead of a NT.

That way, we can improve the other positions with a more long term high quality pick and fill the NT position next year in the offseason or in the draft when there is hopefully a more highly touted prospect available and we have less pieces of the puzzle to figure out.
__________________
Sean Taylor #21 a Redskin forever...

Team Heinicke Fan Club
punch it in - CEO
SkinzWin - President
FrenchSkin - VP of Global Operations
ODUsmitty - Director of Cheerleader Fulfillment
Meks - Director of Marketing
SkinzWin is offline  
Old 03-09-2011, 12:57 PM   #513
30gut
Playmaker
 
30gut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,323
Re: 2011 NFL Draft

Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinzWin View Post
I totally agree with you. I guess I did not specify enough. I think that we should get a serviceable NT for this year. You can't fix every position in one year. It is going to take time. Unless a miracle happens we aren't going deep in the playoffs next year anyway.
If I understand you right I think I agree.

My view is that our defense was sos bad last year at 2 key positions along the DL: RDE and NT that simply having serviceable play will be an improvement.

BTW-I think that Anthony Bryant can be part of the improvement at NT
30gut is offline  
Old 03-09-2011, 02:35 PM   #514
skinsfaninok
Warpath Hall of Fame
 
skinsfaninok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: UNITED STATES
Age: 38
Posts: 36,158
Re: 2011 NFL Draft

More On Mike Shanahan Drafts, Via Scorecasting
__________________
“Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.”
― Nick Saban
skinsfaninok is offline  
Old 03-09-2011, 03:03 PM   #515
wilsowilso
Registered User
 
wilsowilso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Age: 51
Posts: 2,841
Re: 2011 NFL Draft

Anyone know who Kiper has us drafting in his new mock 3.0 released today?

I just know the top four picks so far as Newton jumps to #4 and the Bengals. Anyone know the top ten?

Much appreciated.
wilsowilso is offline  
Old 03-09-2011, 03:06 PM   #516
Ruhskins
Living Legend
 
Ruhskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 22,350
Re: 2011 NFL Draft

Recap of Mel Kiper's phone conference in regards to the Redskins and the draft.

Mel tells - Redskins Rule Blog post - Ultimate Fan Community

If none of the top two QBs are at #10, it seems that the Redskins will need to decide on either a NT or a QB in the 2nd round.

Since the draft is deep in d-lineman, I'd trade down, pick up the best NT in the bottom of the first round, and hopefully have either have an additional 2nd rounder or a 3rd rounder from the trade down to pick up a QB/RB/or interior lineman.
__________________
R.I.P. #21
Ruhskins is offline  
Old 03-09-2011, 03:07 PM   #517
SmootSmack
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 45,256
Re: 2011 NFL Draft

Julio Jones
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline  
Old 03-09-2011, 03:18 PM   #518
juskins
Special Teams
 
juskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 185
Re: 2011 NFL Draft

I think Mike Shanahan will finished what he started last draft and tidy up the OL-RT. They could even drop down in the draft, picking up a pick or two, and still get a very good rookie RT.
juskins is offline  
Old 03-09-2011, 03:32 PM   #519
wilsowilso
Registered User
 
wilsowilso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Age: 51
Posts: 2,841
Re: 2011 NFL Draft

Thanks much!

I'm not sure if I would be upset with a beast WR.

But with our track record of drafting receivers in the first two rounds I know I would be nervous.
wilsowilso is offline  
Old 03-09-2011, 03:37 PM   #520
SOUL-SKINS
Impact Rookie
 
SOUL-SKINS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 896
Re: 2011 NFL Draft

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Julio Jones
Wait..........is that what you're currently hearing ??.............I'm kinda hoping for that. Alot of people on here are ruined by the DT and MK draft picks that they want nothing to do with a WR with our first pick. I say do it . JJ will be a beast
__________________
TODD COLLINS WILL ALWAYS HOLD A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART
SOUL-SKINS is offline  
Old 03-09-2011, 03:38 PM   #521
SOUL-SKINS
Impact Rookie
 
SOUL-SKINS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 896
Re: 2011 NFL Draft

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Julio Jones
Ohhhh....... sorry. I now see you were just responding to wilsowilos' post.
__________________
TODD COLLINS WILL ALWAYS HOLD A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART
SOUL-SKINS is offline  
Old 03-09-2011, 04:33 PM   #522
celts32
Playmaker
 
celts32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hackettstown NJ
Age: 53
Posts: 2,665
Re: 2011 NFL Draft

I would NEVER spend the 10th pick on a WR. If Jones is the best player available at 10 then they need to get out of that pick. Personally I would be doing whatever is necessary to get in position to get the #1 QB on the skins draft board...like they should have done last year. If it's Locker then pick him at 10...if it's Gabbert then trade up. They have to get their guy and they can't wait and hope it falls to them...because with the redskins that never seems to happen.
__________________
Section 116 Row 19

“Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.”

www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub
celts32 is offline  
Old 03-09-2011, 04:38 PM   #523
MTK
\m/
 
MTK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: NY
Age: 52
Posts: 99,593
Re: 2011 NFL Draft

I wouldn't trade up for any of these QBs. And if one of the top WRs is there at #10 and is our top rated player, so be it. It's not like WR isn't a need.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
MTK is offline  
Old 03-09-2011, 04:48 PM   #524
celts32
Playmaker
 
celts32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hackettstown NJ
Age: 53
Posts: 2,665
Re: 2011 NFL Draft

They don't sound worth it to me either but if Shanny loved one of them I would do it. They can't wait around. If theres a guy in there they think is the franchise then they need to make it happen. Coming out of this draft with a potential franchise QB is the #1 priority.
__________________
Section 116 Row 19

“Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.”

www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub
celts32 is offline  
Old 03-09-2011, 04:50 PM   #525
MTK
\m/
 
MTK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: NY
Age: 52
Posts: 99,593
Re: 2011 NFL Draft

I guess you're in favor of reaching for one, with this relatively weak QB class I think that would be a big mistake.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
MTK is offline  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We have no official affiliation with the Washington Commanders or the NFL.
Page generated in 1.32924 seconds with 10 queries