Ongoing CBA discussions

hooskins · 03-29-2011, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I guess that's one of the things that the owners supposedly want to change, to make the salary cap fixed, and not a percentage of revenue

And that's because owners know the NFL is going to grow and giving a percentage to the cap yield less profits in the long run, rather than keeping a fixed cap while revenues continue to grow.

SmootSmack · 03-29-2011, 04:41 PM

Report: NFLPA to soon begin paying players - ESPN

Hog1 · 03-29-2011, 10:58 PM

Strike funds (or in this case lockout) are usually the first disappointment in this type situation

skinsfaninok · 03-30-2011, 11:31 AM

Former Washington Redskins coach Joe Gibbs upset over lockout - ESPN

skinsfaninok · 03-30-2011, 01:51 PM

Attention Drew Brees, Sam Huff has a few questions for you | Professional | NewJerseyNewsroom.com -- Your State. Your News.

NM Redskin · 03-30-2011, 07:51 PM

Obviously its the player vs the owners, but I wonder what the stance of the coaches around the NFL are? All the NFL teams are in the same boat, but we all know teams that aren't established are at more of a disadvantage during a work stoppage. If I was a coach on the hot seat, especially would a quick end to this CBA mess. At the same time you really cant piss off the boss or the player you attempt to coach. Probably better for them to stay out of it.

Lotus · 04-06-2011, 08:26 AM

Today is the Super Bowl in April! Our referee will be Susan Nelson. The NFLPA has won the toss and will kick off. Let's hope that there are no wardrobe malfunctions. In other news, Jerry Jones is selling courtroom seating which does not exist.

MTK · 04-06-2011, 09:06 AM

Ten things to know about the Wednesday court hearing | ProFootballTalk

skinsfaninok · 04-06-2011, 09:30 AM

Lets hope something good happens

Mechanix544 · 04-06-2011, 09:50 AM

I see a one year return to the prior CBA and court mandated discussions during this time to finalize a new CBA for effect in year 2012, but this time with a deadline to agree on a deal. They miss the deadline, and they keep going back to the courts, which orders a temporary lifting of the lockout under conditions of the prior CBA for one year increments.

This happens, football happens. This doesn't, No football in the foreseeable future. Both sides are thick with knuckleheads that wont budge. Not really favorable during a standoff of these sorts.

Dirtbag59 · 04-06-2011, 10:18 AM

Free Agency won't begin until June. The players will win this round but then the NFL will extend the lockouts by going after an appeal. I also hate that it's last years rules, with the final 4 in free agency and such.

skinsfaninok · 04-06-2011, 10:46 AM

Derrick Mason calls Roger Goodell “a joke” | ProFootballTalk

btw Adam S. just said "don't expect anything until June"

Dirtbag59 · 04-06-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Derrick Mason calls Roger Goodell “a joke” | ProFootballTalk

btw Adam S. just said "don't expect anything until June"

Hmmmm, June. I guess Adam S. is copying me. I'm only going to say this once Adam. STOP USING MY POST FOR YOUR STORIES!!>!>!>!>!>

Dirtbag59 · 04-06-2011, 11:01 AM

Here are the details of today's "resolution":

1. Deny the Injunction (Keep the lockout in place)

This would be put the NFL in the driver's seat for negotiation/settlement discussions...Simply, the lockout would continue: there will be no signings, no trades, no player workouts or rehabilitation at the facility, no contact between teams and players or agents. Nothing.

2. Grant the Injunction (Lift the lockout)

This is the result football fans want, although it is not as ideal as it sounds...The NFL will appeal this result to the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals. The question then becomes whether the NFL will resume business during appeal or whether the injunction is stayed (held), meaning more of the lockout.

Judge Nelson has great discretion here. She can grant the injunction and order it be enforced immediately - meaning the NFL must lift the lockout - regardless of appeal. Or she could stay the injunction (maintain the lockout) while the NFL appeals.

3. Back to the NLRB

Parallel to this entire courtroom drama has been the track the NFL pursuing an unfair labor practice charge in front of the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB).

So, in short, there's 0.00000001% chance there will be free agency before the draft and more likely

Longtimefan · 04-06-2011, 11:06 AM

What it all means for season ticket holders:

Redskins, despite lockout, seek season ticket payments - The Washington Post

View Poll Results: Who do you blame for the CBA mess?
Owners	24	26.67%
Players	24	26.67%
Both	42	46.67%
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03-29-2011, 10:58 PM	#528
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03-30-2011, 11:31 AM	#529
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,157	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions Former Washington Redskins coach Joe Gibbs upset over lockout - ESPN __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

03-30-2011, 01:51 PM	#530
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,157	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions Attention Drew Brees, Sam Huff has a few questions for you \| Professional \| NewJerseyNewsroom.com -- Your State. Your News. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

03-30-2011, 07:51 PM	#531
NM Redskin The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,014	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions Obviously its the player vs the owners, but I wonder what the stance of the coaches around the NFL are? All the NFL teams are in the same boat, but we all know teams that aren't established are at more of a disadvantage during a work stoppage. If I was a coach on the hot seat, especially would a quick end to this CBA mess. At the same time you really cant piss off the boss or the player you attempt to coach. Probably better for them to stay out of it. __________________ Despite my solid 40 time and great intangibles I went undrafted AGAIN!

04-06-2011, 08:26 AM	#532
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions Today is the Super Bowl in April! Our referee will be Susan Nelson. The NFLPA has won the toss and will kick off. Let's hope that there are no wardrobe malfunctions. In other news, Jerry Jones is selling courtroom seating which does not exist. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

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04-06-2011, 09:30 AM	#534
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,157	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions Lets hope something good happens __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

04-06-2011, 09:50 AM	#535
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,277	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions I see a one year return to the prior CBA and court mandated discussions during this time to finalize a new CBA for effect in year 2012, but this time with a deadline to agree on a deal. They miss the deadline, and they keep going back to the courts, which orders a temporary lifting of the lockout under conditions of the prior CBA for one year increments. This happens, football happens. This doesn't, No football in the foreseeable future. Both sides are thick with knuckleheads that wont budge. Not really favorable during a standoff of these sorts.

04-06-2011, 10:18 AM	#536
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 39 Posts: 14,750	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions Free Agency won't begin until June. The players will win this round but then the NFL will extend the lockouts by going after an appeal. I also hate that it's last years rules, with the final 4 in free agency and such. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

04-06-2011, 10:46 AM	#537
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,157	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions Derrick Mason calls Roger Goodell “a joke” \| ProFootballTalk btw Adam S. just said "don't expect anything until June" __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

04-06-2011, 11:01 AM	#539
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 39 Posts: 14,750	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions Here are the details of today's "resolution": 1. Deny the Injunction (Keep the lockout in place) This would be put the NFL in the driver's seat for negotiation/settlement discussions...Simply, the lockout would continue: there will be no signings, no trades, no player workouts or rehabilitation at the facility, no contact between teams and players or agents. Nothing. 2. Grant the Injunction (Lift the lockout) This is the result football fans want, although it is not as ideal as it sounds...The NFL will appeal this result to the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals. The question then becomes whether the NFL will resume business during appeal or whether the injunction is stayed (held), meaning more of the lockout. Judge Nelson has great discretion here. She can grant the injunction and order it be enforced immediately - meaning the NFL must lift the lockout - regardless of appeal. Or she could stay the injunction (maintain the lockout) while the NFL appeals. 3. Back to the NLRB Parallel to this entire courtroom drama has been the track the NFL pursuing an unfair labor practice charge in front of the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB). So, in short, there's 0.00000001% chance there will be free agency before the draft and more likely __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

04-06-2011, 11:06 AM	#540
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