Sex Abuse Scandal Rocks Penn State

[NC_Skins]

The ball has just begun to roll.

Penn State losing recruits because of penalties - Sports News from USA Today


Say goodbye to that #1 QB recruit.

[Monkeydad]

While we're talking about changes in State College, they need to change their uniforms now.

Paterno INSISTED on keeping the plainest-possible uniforms. No logo, no names.

That look is part of his now-destroyed legacy. The statue is down, the road names are changing, lets finish the job and update their uniforms finally. Move on.

[mredskins]

[NC_Skins]

Graham Spanier wants to set record straight with Penn State Nittany Lions' Board of Trustees - ESPN


Hey guys, I don't recall a conversation about child molestation about one of the more prominent people in the state of Pennsylvania. Even though you have emails in which I was copied twice, this is no substantial proof that I knew anything.


This guy would make for a great politician. Full of shit till his last breath.

[Monkeydad]

Apparently the Big Ten was considering removing Penn State's membership in the conference. They just decided to take the $13million/year in Bowl money instead.

I'm looking forward to seeing the Indiana Hoosiers rip them apart on the gridiron every year from now on.

Looking over their schedule, they open with the Ohio Bobcats, a good team...not the usual cupcake opener.

Then Virginia, Navy and Temple before the Big 10 teams.

They could lose every game.

I especially want Navy to blow their doors off...a program with real role models, unlike PSU.

[firstdown]

Do we know if anyone beat the statue with a flip flop?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Apparently the Big Ten was considering removing Penn State's membership in the conference. They just decided to take the $13million/year in Bowl money instead.

I'm looking forward to seeing the Indiana Hoosiers rip them apart on the gridiron every year from now on.

Looking over their schedule, they open with the Ohio Bobcats, a good team...not the usual cupcake opener.

Then Virginia, Navy and Temple before the Big 10 teams.

They could lose every game.

I especially want Navy to blow their doors off...a program with real role models, unlike PSU.

I imagine they'll be competitive this year with seniors and juniors choosing to stay. It'll be the depth and the future teams that will most likely cause the PSU program to suffer. Not like PSU was that great to begin with. Over the past decade, I think they've average 8 wins a season? Pretty mediocre if you ask me.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Do we know if anyone beat the statue with a flip flop?

Someone on the local talk radio station just suggested the melt the bronze statue down into some kind of commemorative coins and sell them with the profits going to charity since a lot of people would want a piece of that statue.

Sounds OK aside from the sick part about selling that statue to the twisted Paterno-worshippers, even if they money will do good.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Sounds OK aside from the sick part about selling that statue to the twisted Paterno-worshippers, even if they money will do good.

My preccciooouss!!

[NC_Skins]

Some more well versed PSU fans articulating their displeasure. Don't these idiots know they are attaching their names to such hateful words?


"I HOPE U ALL FUCKIN DIE" And Other Reasoned, Measured Responses To The NCAA's Penn State Punishment


Hope their employers find out. (or future ones)

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Additionally, How exactly is vacating wins in any way related to, or an appropriate punishment for OFF-FIELD issues?

The former players will still tell their grandkids about the games they won and the Bowl games they went to.

Suddenly, we just pretend those games and wins didn't happen?

This "punishment", specifically this part is a joke. It doesn't make any sense. The players earned those wins. They should be not punished. Rewriting history won't affect anyone or help the guilty realize what they've done wrong. You think the Board of Directors, the Athletic department Graham Spanier and Sandusky's wife care that when they search the team's W-L record online, it will look different? You think they care about no Bowls for 4 years? They may care if the program was shut down...along with their income.


I wanted the football program to be killed...at least for 14 years, how long they covered up the rapes. Then we get the cries "why punish the current players, they didn't do anything wrong!" True, but we're punishing the football PROGRAM. The AD, the board, the coaches...and everyone who put the public relations and income of the football program above these kids, including the fans who still won't admit anything happened. The players can transfer and play right away. If they still want a crappy PSU degree, they can stay there for the academics.


Other than lost money, the football program literally just got away with rape, at least from the NCAA.

The players are not being punished by the vacated wins. They've moved on. The players still have their memories of playing, achievements during that game. They aren't being affected at all by those "W"s being turned into "L"s.

I think the Penn State wins were vacated for one reason. To not let Joe Paterno be the winningest coach in major college football, in part by covering up what Sandusky was doing. LINK

With the NCAA sanctions eliminating 111 wins from Penn State between 1998 and 2011, Joe Paterno is no longer the winningest coach in major college football -- a title he received just 10 days before he was fired in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky scandal.

Paterno, with 298 wins, is now below Florida State's Bobby Bowden, Alabama's Bear Bryant, Glenn Warner and several others. Paterno is now 12th on the list of all coaches in all football divisions.

The punishment fits the crime. Paterno helped cover Sandusky's crimes to protect the football program. Those wins should be taken away.

As to the current Penn State players, they can transfer without penalty. Yes it still sucks for them. They trusted Penn State. At least they weren't treated as bad as kids that also trusted Penn State, though the current (and later former) assistant coach allowed to bring the kids on campus for his aims. That's where the focus should be, about who was hurt most by trusting Penn State.

I agree the football program and administrators haven't been punished enough.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Some more well versed PSU fans articulating their displeasure. Don't these idiots know they are attaching their names to such hateful words?


"I HOPE U ALL ****IN DIE" And Other Reasoned, Measured Responses To The NCAA's Penn State Punishment


Hope their employers find out. (or future ones)

All i can say is Penn State has some dumb students and some even dumber fans. Nobody in their right mind right now would offer these guys one ounce of support. The NCAA had to do what they did. Facts are facts. F Joe Paterno, may he eternally rot in h*ll along with Jerry Sandusky.

Feel bad for the innocent people who were there just trying to get an education but i have a real issue with anyone who is protesting the NCAA's decision or the school's decision to remove the Joe Paterno statue.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Some more well versed PSU fans articulating their displeasure. Don't these idiots know they are attaching their names to such hateful words?


"I HOPE U ALL ****IN DIE" And Other Reasoned, Measured Responses To The NCAA's Penn State Punishment


Hope their employers find out. (or future ones)

THE NCAA IS A BUNCH OF ****IN FAGGOT ASS BITCHES THOSE ARE ****IN JOES WINS U ****IN **** BAG ASSHOLE FAGS I HOPE U ALL ****IN DIE

Lol. To steal a line from Ron Burgundy, you stay classy (Penn State). This will obviously help solidify our opinion of them.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

While obviously there needed to be a heavy penalty, I feel sorry for the players over this 14 year period that now suddenly never happened according to the record book. Some players are rightfully pissed off that the blood and sweat they gave up for the university and subsequently the NCAA to make millions of dollars, now meant nothing because of the faults of a handful of people. Punishing those not involved just doesn't seem fair whatsoever. Just alter the record book in regards to JP. I truly feel sorry for the poor boys who had their lives forever changed by a monster and those who didn't fight hard enough for the right thing to be done, but these other boys shouldn't be punished as well. This whole situation sucks and there was never going to be a "right way" for this to get made right.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

While obviously there needed to be a heavy penalty, I feel sorry for the players over this 14 year period that now suddenly never happened according to the record book. Some players are rightfully pissed off that the blood and sweat they gave up for the university and subsequently the NCAA to make millions of dollars, now meant nothing because of the faults of a handful of people. Punishing those not involved just doesn't seem fair whatsoever. Just alter the record book in regards to JP. I truly feel sorry for the poor boys who had their lives forever changed by a monster and those who didn't fight hard enough for the right thing to be done, but these other boys shouldn't be punished as well. This whole situation sucks and there was never going to be a "right way" for this to get made right.

How does changing the records affect those past players, now?

Besides it's really not punitive to take those wins away. Pedo State University football recruiting benefited from Sandusky being illegally protected. Therefore PSU does not deserve those wins.