WFT's Off-Season Thread

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

and you would think he would want to go somewhere with a quality QB in place

He hinted about playing in Jax with sunshine so that's possible

[BaltimoreSkins]

I thought it was an odd FA choice Washington based on all things considered.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He hinted about playing in Jax with sunshine so that's possible

Income tax free state of Florida. Honestly Id want to play in Florida, Texas, Seattle as well.

Bears have 190M committed to next year already .. thats without Allen Robinson being calculated into anything.

I keep waiting for this tsunami of cut good players due to cap issues ... I hope Im not disappointed.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

and you would think he would want to go somewhere with a quality QB in place

Yep, it's going to be tough to lure a quality free agent WR here with the QB situation as it is.

[skinsfaninok]

Yeah I doubt Kyle Allen and Taylor Heineke are very attractive to pass catchers...

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

and you would think he would want to go somewhere with a quality QB in place

And go somewhere where he's the uncontested WR1 (and get paid WR1 $$).

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Income tax free state of Florida. Honestly Id want to play in Florida, Texas, Seattle as well.

Bears have 190M committed to next year already .. thats without Allen Robinson being calculated into anything.

I keep waiting for this tsunami of cut good players due to cap issues ... I hope Im not disappointed.

Even if no more cut, some real bargains for the patient in free agency. Interesting question I don't know the answer to, do you sign a FA WR 75% as good as the elite for 40% of the price?

[sdskinsfan2001]

Tomorrow is the tag deadline, unless it gets extended. NFL still hasn't announced the actual salary cap yet.

[skinsfaninok]

The team has tagged Brandon Scherff per Rap sheet

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Just wanted to throw this out there: more than half the league spends 30M+ on Dline, and 7 teams 40M+... so would it be that crazy to think we could retain Allen AND Payne ? (Assuming we'd be ready to let Scherff go and not make a splashy signing at QB, which both seem quite likely right now).

You could make it work, but the question is would you want to? If you are going to, probably aren't signing a big name WR either. Percent of cap is the meaningful metric, not absolute dollar amount, percent of cap is by definition always inflation adjusted. If we resign Allen this year for $15M, Payne next year for $15M, Sweat year after for $20M, Young year after for $25M, in 2024 that is $75M on DL. Even if we were super optimistic and said cap would be $225M by then, a $45M increase or a 25% increase, then we have a third of our cap allocated to DL not including 4 other DL. There are 6 main position groups, and QB usually consumes more once you resign one, but roughly 16.7% percent for QBs; OL; WRs, RBs, TEs; DL; LBs, CBs/Ss. And lumping WR, RB, TE together is being generous. It would put a lot of strain on rest of team, but you could do it if you had a serious long term plan and rolled lots of money over year to year. Basically, our DL would take the salary of an entire other position group.

As I wrote in a previous post, I prefer keeping both edge rushers and Payne, simply because edge rushers the high leverage position and Payne to me is more talented than Allen. The ideal scenario would be to trade him for a 2nd plus a later pick, but doubt we can.

I would absolutely take Allen over Scherff simply because he is younger and healthier and RG is lowest leverage position on entire team, but even that may not make it viable. I'd rather have two devastating edge rushers, Payne, and plug Io, Settle, or some other similar player in at other DT. You could find someone serviceable but not as good as Allen in 3rd or 4th round or older guy with some gas left on cheap contract.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The team has tagged Brandon Scherff per Rap sheet

Still making the same mistakes. More leverage for Scherff and a bloated salary.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Still making the same mistakes. More leverage for Scherff and a bloated salary.

Probably. We can but hope it is a tag and trade, but I doubt it. More speculatively, it could mean a trade-up in draft is planned, but that might be reading too much into it. If we could get a 3rd for Scherff, that is probably the best we could hope for.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Still making the same mistakes. More leverage for Scherff and a bloated salary.

Or they could trade him if they can'twork out a deal. I'd rather get compensation now instead of waiting for a comp pick next year.

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Or they could trade him if they can'twork out a deal. I'd rather get compensation now instead of waiting for a comp pick next year.

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Not sure how many teams want to trade for a guard making 18 million and will be a FA again in 1 year.

What round pick would you accept for him?

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The team has tagged Brandon Scherff per Rap sheet

... I don't get it. Are we gonna win the SB next year ? Cuz he ain't signing any deal unless it's significantly higher than what he could get in FA next year...