BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by The Goat

What I know about Allen seems like a big improvement over Vinny. But here's the billion dollar question: is Allen a guy who will keep Snyder from meddling in the football decisions?

the junkies had the bucs beat writer (stroud - been covering the bucs before allen got there) on this morning (around 10:30ish) and he said allen did what the owner and HC wanted in tampa, that he was not a guy who would stand up to higher management.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

the junkies had the bucs beat writer (stroud - been covering the bucs before allen got there) on this morning (around 10:30ish) and he said allen did what the owner and HC wanted in tampa, that he was not a guy who would stand up to higher management.

So what does that mean? In any company if you want to stay employed you will have to eventually go with what the owner wants. You can offer your opinion and make a case for it but in the end the owner holds the cards.

No one person is going to come to the Redskins and completely dominate Dan and his decisions, impossible.

Who do people want as GM Hitler??? It just blows my mind people are complaining about Bruce Allen when the guy probably doesn't even know what his office looks like yet. give him a chance.

Some people are just never fawking happy.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by mredskins

So what does that mean? In any company if you want to stay employed you will have to eventually go with what the owner wants. You can offer your opinion and make a case for it but in the end the owner holds the cards.

No one person is going to come to the Redskins and completely dominate Dan and his decisions, impossible.

Who do people want as GM Hitler??? It just blows my mind people are complaining about Bruce Allen when the guy probably doesn't even know what his office looks like yet. give him a chance.

Some people are just never fawking happy.

im not complaining or not happy with bruce allen.

the goat asked a question and the junkies had a bucs reporter on who made comments directly answering the goats question.

i was just saying what he said. relax buddy.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

im not complaining or not happy with bruce allen.

the goat asked a question and the junkies had a bucs reporter on who made comments directly answering the goats question.

i was just saying what he said. relax buddy.

Was not completely direct at you, just tired of folks bitching.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by mredskins

So what does that mean? In any company if you want to stay employed you will have to eventually go with what the owner wants. You can offer your opinion and make a case for it but in the end the owner holds the cards.

No one person is going to come to the Redskins and completely dominate Dan and his decisions, impossible.

Who do people want as GM Hitler??? It just blows my mind people are complaining about Bruce Allen when the guy probably doesn't even know what his office looks like yet. give him a chance.

Some people are just never fawking happy.

I understand being happy about Allen, but i think its fair to look at the history of both Allen and Snyder in determining what our "initial reactions" are. Allen was a yes-man in tampa, the only time he's ever held a GM position. And Snyder does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. As you said, we don't know what his office here will look like. We should give things a chance. I dont think anyone is saying this is absolutely going to be a complete failure. I just think its wise that we temper our joy and enthusiasm with some skepticism.

If the front office ends up looking like JLC's sources indicate, then we have something to be truly happy over. If DeCosta is brought in and Shanahan takes over, i'll be more happy that you can imagine. But if we end up with Allen and Gruden or Allen and a "small-name" coach, then, chances are, nothings really changed and we have vinny 2.0. Time will tell. But we certainly have more reason for optimism than we did 48 hours ago, that much is certain.

[SBXVII]

Thought I would pass this along. It's a good read from the Denver Post:

Shanahan appears headed to Redskins - The Denver Post

[SBXVII]

I found this interesting also:

Redskins hiring Allen could be first move toward adding Shanahan

Shanahan has been quietly making inroads to round out a staff, multiple sources said, and they would be surprised if he doesn't ultimately end up in Washington to replace Jim Zorn shortly after this season ends in a team president/head coach capacity similar to the role that Joe Gibbs had there.

and

[QUOTE]Shanahan interviewed for the Buffalo Bills' head-coaching job a few weeks back, but few people who know him expected the talks to progress, with other suitors emerging. Should the Dallas Cowboys continue to plummet, they could be in line for a coach, with Shanahan a top option. The Texans already have a great offense in place (they essentially run Shanahan’s offense with a good young quarterback in place), and there would be lots in place to attract the coach there as well, but I continue to hear he is most likely to land in Washington given the machinations already ongoing as he reaches out to potential hires for his next gig.
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[Dlyne8r]

Nevermind...

[skinsfaninok]

Cerrato will remain with the Redskins as a Snyder consultant | ProFootballTalk.com. I guess vinny is staying on a small role..

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Cerrato will remain with the Redskins as a Snyder consultant | ProFootballTalk.com. I guess vinny is staying on a small role..

Well hell, if you completely cut him who takes over his radio spot?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Cerrato will remain with the Redskins as a Snyder consultant | ProFootballTalk.com. I guess vinny is staying on a small role..

Don't worry about that.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Mike-I suppose. Kyle-no.

By the way, if you guys here any talk about Cerrato being a "consultant" to the team. Don't get worked up over it. He has no role with the team. It's just that he's still under a contract for a few more months so that's his new title. Nothing to worry about

[Lotus]

Vinny who? Never heard of him.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Cerrato will remain with the Redskins as a Snyder consultant | ProFootballTalk.com. I guess vinny is staying on a small role..

I hear it's hush money. DS just wants to keep Cerrato from flapping his gums.

[LandrySlice]

What a great day! I have been waiting a whole year for the real end of Ceratto, and while Allen is a huge unknown, its a step in the right direction, and you gotta love how many picks he has had in every draft. That is key to building depth on the lines and keeping the team younger. Now lets just finish the season and see part II fall in place. ORAKPOSLICE OUT!

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by LandrySlice

What a great day! I have been waiting a whole year for the real end of Ceratto, and while Allen is a huge unknown, its a step in the right direction, and you gotta love how many picks he has had in every draft. That is key to building depth on the lines and keeping the team younger. Now lets just finish the season and see part II fall in place. ORAKPOSLICE OUT!

wait how do you say allen is an unknown then throw some never heard before stuff about norvis... unless I missed something