The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Lotus

High five on the Tannehill-Flynn choice.

Hoyer-Foles

[GTripp0012]

I know Holmgren isn't great with secrecy, but I want to point out that the overwhelming likelihood of the Browns <3 RGIII rumors are coming from outside the Browns organization. That's not to say that the Browns don't like RGIII, but the people who think the Browns might actually give up two first rounders to move up are probably not employees of the Browns.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I know Holmgren isn't great with secrecy, but I want to point out that the overwhelming likelihood of the Browns <3 RGIII rumors are coming from outside the Browns organization. That's not to say that the Browns don't like RGIII, but the people who think the Browns might actually give up two first rounders to move up are probably not employees of the Browns.

Your right but lets not forget Miami and the Browns have commented on the fact that RG3 is worh taking because he fits into any system... According to the Browns HC. Which is why the Browns HC was supposed to get reprimanded for commenting on a college player who had not declared yet.

Trust me I'm sure their interested especially since their drafted QB didn't play lights out. Miami's interested too. I'd be supprised if the Rams and Vikes are not somewhat interested and looking at possibly taking him.

[GTripp0012]

Also, same thing goes for "the Redskins will trade up for RGIII" rumors.

So you can maybe take a guess where all these rumors are coming from? If not the Browns or Redskins, then...

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

And of course, next years class will be better.

[BuckSkin]

I'm with Dirtbag here. I've always been a fan of acquiring picks by trading back in the draft. One player does not make any team a contender......That was until I watched the Colts, a perennial powerhouse, fall to the number 1 pick. I'm not saying RGIII is Peyton Manning, but one guy can make a difference.

[Lotus]

Ditto to the above posts. It is worth a high price to have a dynamic franchise QB.

[diehardskin2982]

^ Aggreed Flynn is not the end all-be all for this team See Matt Cassel, he may be nothing more then a system QB who looked good in one game.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

^ Aggreed Flynn is not the end all-be all for this team See Matt Cassel, he may be nothing more then a system QB who looked good in one game.

Yeah, but Cassell is not a bum, and he never looked as good as Flynn did. There are a lot of guys who can get hot and throw for over 300 yards and 3-4 TDs, but 480 and 6? Damn!

U could be right though. Maybe he's not all that. I remember a lot of posts during the tail end of the Jason Campbell era arguing that we shouldn't draft a QB until we had a solid foundation in place.

What if the Skins kept all their picks and built up the Offense this off-season with the exception of QB. Wouldn't they be in a much better position to draft a franchise QB next year? Imagine all 8 picks and free agency going towards O-line, WR, Secondary and LB.

And then next season bundle a bunch of picks to trade up for Matt Barkley or someone else. By that time, they should have a bonafide #1 and #2 WR to go along with a re-tooled O-line and more depth on Defense. Less holes would make it more palatable to trade picks to move up in the draft.

Then, their rookie QB would step into an ideal situation. I know the arguments about the Shanny's needing to win now or else the whole things gets blown up, and I'm not necessarily proposing this. Just saying it wouldn't be the end of the world to manage through one more season to come out on the other end with a solid team from top to bottom.

I envision the Redskins more in the mold of the Giants, Ravens and 49ers (solid all around) than the tecmo-bowl type teams of the Pats, Packers and Saints.

Any takers?

[irish]

Lorenzo Alexander was on Ch 4 tonight saying the Skins should go after Flynn.

[WillH]

While I don't know college football at all, from his highlights I tend to agree that RGIII seems to be the kind of talent worth mortgaging the teams future.

With that said, if he truly is the phenom he seems to be, is there any chance that the Colts draft him over Luck? New GM and Coach might think he's a better fit.

And if he's not good enough to be in the same conversation as Luck, is he still worth mortgaging the teams future?

[theJBexperience]

Originally Posted by WillH

While I don't know college football at all, from his highlights I tend to agree that RGIII seems to be the kind of talent worth mortgaging the teams future.

With that said, if he truly is the phenom he seems to be, is there any chance that the Colts draft him over Luck? New GM and Coach might think he's a better fit.

I've heard from a friend who has a contact within the Colts' organization that they're high on RGIII, and that Andrew Luck isn't necessarily a lock to be their pick. Take it for what it's worth. It is second-hand info, but my friend is well connected and hasn't let me down before.

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I just don't see what all the fuss is with having to pay a premium for the right to draft RGIII. Is the extra cornerback, receiver, or linebacker worth not getting a franchise QB? An elite prospect that can make the team contenders year in and year out.

Let me tell you something, the rest of the NFC East is praying we don't get this guy. They don't want to face him as a rookie and they sure as hell don't want to face him when he starts to come into his own around year 3. I see this guy as a top 5 QB when he develops and certainly he'll end up being the best QB in the East. You just don't pass up an opportunity to take the guy that can turn around your team because you want to be frugal.

Totally agreed. Well put. This is a QB league, and we don't have anyone on the roster who is even close to being a competitive starter in the league, let alone championship caliber. Yes, we have a lot of holes, but the biggest one is QB. Plug that one and then fill in the rest. I think Shanny & Allen have the same philosophy but just whiffed big time on Dono.

I cannot understand what the knock is on RGIII. Because of the hype? I know there's a lot of hyped players who tanked. Should that hurt his draft stock? For every JaMarcus Russell & Ryan Leaf, there's a Cam Newton & Peyton Manning. Then the whole skill set argument not fitting Shanny's system. Come on! He's a mobile, pin point passer with a dangerous deep ball. Hello. He's not a run first QB, but he is an elite scrambler. I don't understand the criticism either that he ran the spread in college. You know who else ran the spread in college and it's translated well to the pros? Drew Brees.

Of course, I'm on the RGIII bandwagon. I would love a high character leader for this team who can straight up ball. If his playmaking ability and leadership transfer over to the pros, he will inspire the team and win more games for us. Wouldn't we all like to see some inspired football for a change? If he's not the franchise QB, I still think the team needs to do whatever it takes to find one, and then, plug up the holes. That's how important a franchise QB is in this league.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by theJBexperience

I've heard from a friend who has a contact within the Colts' organization that they're high on RGIII, and that Andrew Luck isn't necessarily a lock to be their pick. Take it for what it's worth. It is second-hand info, but my friend is well connected and hasn't let me down before.



Totally agreed. Well put. This is a QB league, and we don't have anyone on the roster who is even close to being a competitive starter in the league, let alone championship caliber. Yes, we have a lot of holes, but the biggest one is QB. Plug that one and then fill in the rest. I think Shanny & Allen have the same philosophy but just whiffed big time on Dono.

I cannot understand what the knock is on RGIII. Because of the hype? I know there's a lot of hyped players who tanked. Should that hurt his draft stock? For every JaMarcus Russell & Ryan Leaf, there's a Cam Newton & Peyton Manning. Then the whole skill set argument not fitting Shanny's system. Come on! He's a mobile, pin point passer with a dangerous deep ball. Hello. He's not a run first QB, but he is an elite scrambler. I don't understand the criticism either that he ran the spread in college. You know who else ran the spread in college and it's translated well to the pros? Drew Brees.

Of course, I'm on the RGIII bandwagon. I would love a high character leader for this team who can straight up ball. If his playmaking ability and leadership transfer over to the pros, he will inspire the team and win more games for us. Wouldn't we all like to see some inspired football for a change? If he's not the franchise QB, I still think the team needs to do whatever it takes to find one, and then, plug up the holes. That's how important a franchise QB is in this league.

There are always going to be "knocks" on guys as highly touted as RGIII, because there are no guarantees, and history tells us that the odds are 50/50at best for QBs taken in the top 10-15 picks. Even Luck is not a lock. I think most fans want RGIII, me included, but there's nothing wrong with being worried about what he will cost. If we give up 4 or more high picks, and he doesn't pan out we're going to be in for some next level pain and misery.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Yeah, but Cassell is not a bum, and he never looked as good as Flynn did. There are a lot of guys who can get hot and throw for over 300 yards and 3-4 TDs, but 480 and 6? Damn!

You forgot to mention the 7 or 8 turnovers he's had in just two games. That puts Rex to shame.

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

I think most fans want RGIII, me included, but there's nothing wrong with being worried about what he will cost. If we give up 4 or more high picks, and he doesn't pan out we're going to be in for some next level pain and misery.

Which is why I don't think Shanny sells the farm just to get him. I think he stays the course, moves down and drafts a QB with our 2nd pick (or first depending on how far we move)

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

You forgot to mention the 7 or 8 turnovers he's had in just two games. That puts Rex to shame.

Are we talking about Flynn?

He appeared in 5 regular season games this year with 6 TDs, 2 INTs, and 1 lost fumble.

Exaggerate much? lol