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[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Redskins Fullback Eric Kettani Becomes Navy Lieutenant | wusa9.com

Awesome of the Redskins to oblige.

Thanks for sharing that with us.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Redskins Fullback Eric Kettani Becomes Navy Lieutenant | wusa9.com

Congratulations to him and his family and my I say Thank You for your service.

[CultBrennan59]

I wonder if Lt. Kettani makes it on the active roster this year.

Would he be the first Lt. to ever make an NFL roster?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I wonder if Lt. Kettani makes it on the active roster this year.

Would he be the first Lt. to ever make an NFL roster?

NFL's military men

[That Guy]

the answer is no. usually they turn pro athlete military into touring recruiters and reservists or whatever. a couple years ago detroit i think the navy pulled an officer from detroit since he was only going to make the practice squad.

[dmek25]

opps

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by RGIII

Explain this Redskins-name supporters...
The Racist Redskins - The Daily Beast

The author of your article needs to check the actual facts.

Short version: You're wrong. The name Redskins isn't racist.

Medium version: The name Redskins wasn't racist when it was coined. It wasn't racist when the team adopted it for a variety of reasons. The people who actually use it now.. HTTR! People who think it's derogatory just can't seem to realize it was adopted and used by the team to root for and identify with, not against. "Redskins" isn't racist now, except for the people making themselves look like racists in protesting the name.

Long version: Well, here's a starter about the name's origins. Refutes some of the falsehoods that anti-Redskins protestors have made.

http://anthropology.si.edu/goddard/redskin.pdf

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

The author of your article needs to check the actual facts.

Short version: You're wrong. The name Redskins isn't racist.

Medium version: The name Redskins wasn't racist when it was coined. It wasn't racist when the team adopted it for a variety of reasons. The people who actually use it now.. HTTR! People who think it's derogatory just can't seem to realize it was adopted and used by the team to root for and identify with, not against. "Redskins" isn't racist now, except for the people making themselves look like racists in protesting the name.

Long version: Well, here's a starter about the name's origins. Refutes some of the falsehoods that anti-Redskins protestors have made.

http://anthropology.si.edu/goddard/redskin.pdf

I think the team also took on the name to pay homage to the red sox when they started sharing Fenway park in 1933. It was a nice way to use the Red from red sox and still maintain the native american theme from when they were the Boston Braves.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

The author of your article needs to check the actual facts.

Short version: You're wrong. The name Redskins isn't racist.

Medium version: The name Redskins wasn't racist when it was coined. It wasn't racist when the team adopted it for a variety of reasons. The people who actually use it now.. HTTR! People who think it's derogatory just can't seem to realize it was adopted and used by the team to root for and identify with, not against. "Redskins" isn't racist now, except for the people making themselves look like racists in protesting the name.

Long version: Well, here's a starter about the name's origins. Refutes some of the falsehoods that anti-Redskins protestors have made.

http://anthropology.si.edu/goddard/redskin.pdf

This Person doesn't agree with you.Hit the link to read the whole article.


Indianz.Com > Doug George-Kanentiio: A Mohawk's perspective on 'Redskins'

Altogether, the Mohawk Nation lost over 9,000,000 acres of land, an area which includes Cooperstown and all of the Adirondacks. This was done without our consent. In order to rationalize the theft of the land falsehoods were created which de-humanized our people. We were no longer friends but demons. We were labeled as savages and cannibals, warlike primitives without intellect. Among the most tragic of profanes were those books used in schools, which grossly distorted our history and passed on terrible lies about us.

The use of “redskins” was among the worse of these labels. That word originally referred to the Beothuks of Newfoundland, a peaceful people who colored their skin with red ochre as adornment and to keep the mosquitoes at bay. Their passivity was mistaken for weakness and after the waves of European diseases killed most of them those who survived were hunted and murdered for sport. By 1830 they were extinct. One of the reprehensible tactics was to remove the skins of the Beothuks and use them as covers for books and as leggings for the hunters.

This act of skinning Native people, both men and women, continued on along the frontier. It was an act of terror meant to instill fear and drive the Natives from coveted lands. It was justified by these stereotypes that were highly effective in undermining the dignity, pride and self-assurance of our people. We are, among all peoples in this hemisphere, the most misunderstood, the most libeled and the most despised because of the lies in the media, in popular literature and, sadly, in the schools.

Doug George-Kanentiio, Akwesasne Mohawk, is a co-founder of the Native American Journalists Association, a former member of the Board of Trustees for the National Museum of the American Indian and the author of many books and articles about Native history and current issues. His latest book is "Iroquois on Fire". He may be reached via e-mail: Kanentiioaol.com. Kanentiio resides on Oneida Iroquois Territory in central New York State.

[Skinzman]

Why would a Mohawk Indian be commenting on the Beothuks? The Mohawk Indians regularly invaded the Beothuks to capture them as slaves. As well as the Mi'kmaq Indians, who allied with the French and were paid by the French to drive the Beothuks inland as the French wanted coastal Canada to themselves. The Mohawk Indians play a role, just like Europeans, as to why the Beothuks are extinct.

PS... To a degree he does agree with Goddard. As he clearly states, from what you copied and pasted, that the term Redskins originates from the coloring of the skin with red ochre.

[RGIII]

This is all good information. It's worthy of being put in its own thread. Was the previous one(s) closed?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by RGIII

This is all good information. It's worthy of being put in its own thread. Was the previous one(s) closed?

It's all old information, as is this subject. I think the mods had stated something to the effect that if something new (ie court ruling/team change in stance) were to happen, then a new thread would be opened. For now, it's just an offseason harangue that spawns Yo momma jokes.

[CRedskinsRule]

a side question, although sick of the name argument, has there been any native american movement to not call a haircut a mohawk? Just curious, the thought popped into my mind from the Mohawk discussion above.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

It's all old information, as is this subject. I think the mods had stated something to the effect that if something new (ie court ruling/team change in stance) were to happen, then a new thread would be opened. For now, it's just an offseason harangue that spawns Yo momma jokes.

To be fair it was McNabb who sparked the "Yo Mama" jokes.

[RGIII]

Yo momma so stupid she called me yesterday begging for W-2s for the handjob, blowjob, and nutjob she gave last year.