Redskins vs. Bengals game thread

[QueensRedskinsFan]

The Redskins are such a f*ckin joke, they just lost to the Bengals...the second worst team in football...

I'm happy baseball is only a few months away and I'm happy my football team calls 3rd down plays to receivers that are 3 yds short of the marker every time...bye bye Jim Zorn you loser

[RFKRat]

Originally Posted by QueensRedskinsFan

The Redskins are such a f*ckin joke, they just lost to the Bengals...the second worst team in football...

I'm happy baseball is only a few months away and I'm happy my football team calls 3rd down plays to receivers that are 3 yds short of the marker every time...bye bye Jim Zorn you loser

Why is anyone really suprised at this? They also lost to the Rams. Barely beat Cleveland and Seattle.

I think as much as the coaches need to be blamed, the players themselves should be just as much blamed. What a bunch of whiny, lazy bums. They're a disgrace to themselves, the fans, their families, the city and the logo on the helmet. The whole lot of them.

What a laughingstock.

[QueensRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by RFKRat

Why is anyone really suprised at this? They also lost to the Rams. Barely beat Cleveland and Seattle.

I think as much as the coaches need to be blamed, the players themselves should be just as much blamed. What a bunch of whiny, lazy bums. They're a disgrace to themselves, the fans, their families, the city and the logo on the helmet. The whole lot of them.

What a laughingstock.

You're right...the Redskins are a complete joke...They just aren't a good football team

[bjschmonsees]

Why does this team always start slow? Is it the players? It can't be the coach, because this has been a problem for more than a decade...Gibbs, Norv, Zorn, Spurrier...None of them could ever motivate a team that has enought talent to win a playoff game... I'm starting to believe that the native americans who put a curse on this team have been very effective...

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by bjschmonsees

I'm starting to believe that the native americans who put a curse on this team have been very effective...

I agree 100%. I've been saying that for years

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by bjschmonsees

Why does this team always start slow? Is it the players? It can't be the coach, because this has been a problem for more than a decade...Gibbs, Norv, Zorn, Spurrier...None of them could ever motivate a team that has enought talent to win a playoff game... I'm starting to believe that the native americans who put a curse on this team have been very effective...

A lot of it's the home field advantage that they have, which explains the Ravens, Seahawks, and Bengals slow starts.

We always seem to overcome those starts though and play just fine. Problem comes when we earn a touchdown, or at least a short shot at a touchdown, and it's taken away from us because the zebras don't know what "forward progress" is.

Passing offense, Campbell especially, but the protection as well was pretty good today. Run blocking was not great, and I'm afraid that's how it is going to be the rest of the year.

Defense has no excuse though for giving up 17 points in the first quarter AND not getting them off the field in the second half. Blache needs to go. He's awful.

If they have to clean house on the coaching staff, then they have to do what they have to do. But until someone else is drawing up the defensive gameplan, I think we will never produce a better defense than this one.

I would actually clean all the defensive coaches, just because I think they have such a jaded idea of what the problems are, that any solutions that these guys come up with are only going to hurt us in the future.

Campbell's impressive. He's just not getting any help from people who aren't Mike Sellers.

[Bushead]

He's a rookie head coach!? I don't get anyone on this site. Remember when we changed coaches every 2 years? Remember when we went out and had big splashes YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. Remember constantly cutting those people we got so hyped about only a year afterwards?

Its one season. It started out great, then the schedule got extremely tough. Now injuries and wear and tear is starting to show because the lack of depth at certain positions.

So lets have Jason Campbell learn another play book this offseason and all the W Receivers?

[ST21RIP]

Originally Posted by Bushead

He's a rookie head coach!? I don't get anyone on this site. Remember when we changed coaches every 2 years? Remember when we went out and had big splashes YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. Remember constantly cutting those people we got so hyped about only a year afterwards?

Its one season. It started out great, then the schedule got extremely tough. Now injuries and wear and tear is starting to show because the lack of depth at certain positions.

So lets have Jason Campbell learn another play book this offseason and all the W Receivers?

ATL and B MORE both have rookie coaches. oh yeah, and they both have rookie qbs? How they looking. Stop making excuses for zorn. he not an NFL head coach. he coached in seattle for 10 years and he wasnt even going to holmgren's successor. that will be mora jr.

[Bushead]

Originally Posted by ST21RIP

ATL and B MORE both have rookie coaches. oh yeah, and they both have rookie qbs? How they looking. Stop making excuses for zorn. he not an NFL head coach. he coached in seattle for 10 years and he wasn't even going to holmgren's successor. that will be mora jr.

Well Gibbs Coached this team for 4 years in his Second Stint and he didn't go to the superbowl. Do you know how many coaches accomplished that? Don't make excuses for Joe Gibbs. He had 4 years and he wasn't able to do what others were able to do.

The team has multiple problems. To blame it on only Jim Zorn or Campbell is unfair. Each year you have people that do well and exceed expectiations. HELL! Spurrier got 2 years and his game plans and techniques were way worse than this.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Bushead

Well Gibbs Coached this team for 4 years in his Second Stint and he didn't go to the superbowl. Do you know how many coaches accomplished that? Don't make excuses for Joe Gibbs. He had 4 years and he wasn't able to do what others were able to do.

The team has multiple problems. To blame it on only Jim Zorn or Campbell is unfair. Each year you have people that do well and exceed expectiations. HELL! Spurrier got 2 years and his game plans and techniques were way worse than this.

THe organization itself is doomed unless changes are made at the top down. Snyder isn't selling the team anytime soon so the only thing that will change is the HC and QB. Cerrato needs to take a hike and they obviously need better scouts. Gibbs should have never been rehired in hindsight, his second tenure took away from the hiring of a decent HC that could have been around for the long haul and restored the franchise with a long term plan. Gibbs calling it quits with one year left obviously took Snyder by surprise so we got who we have now as a result of desperation. No way Cowher comes to Washington now as the franchise is in shambles and is fast becoming a joke almost as bad as the Lions. Unless the Danny relinquishes his power over the day to day operations over the team, the Skins will always be average to mediocre.
7-9 here we come. Makes me miss the early Norv years to be honest!!!!!!

[bjschmonsees]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

THe organization itself is doomed unless changes are made at the top down. Snyder isn't selling the team anytime soon so the only thing that will change is the HC and QB. Cerrato needs to take a hike and they obviously need better scouts. Gibbs should have never been rehired in hindsight, his second tenure took away from the hiring of a decent HC that could have been around for the long haul and restored the franchise with a long term plan. Gibbs calling it quits with one year left obviously took Snyder by surprise so we got who we have now as a result of desperation. No way Cowher comes to Washington now as the franchise is in shambles and is fast becoming a joke almost as bad as the Lions. Unless the Danny relinquishes his power over the day to day operations over the team, the Skins will always be average to mediocre.
7-9 here we come. Makes me miss the early Norv years to be honest!!!!!!

You are obviously distraught. Norv's Chargers are 5-8 at this point.

Do you really want to relive that era? How bout a Frerrote head butt?

Gibbs at least restored respectability. Unfotunately it seems at this point that Zorn has destroyed that...

Cowher will take this job, becaue money talks. Snyder wanted Cowher last year. Now, he will get him. Cowher will get total control...

[horse]

Originally Posted by Bushead

He's a rookie head coach!? I don't get anyone on this site. Remember when we changed coaches every 2 years? Remember when we went out and had big splashes YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. Remember constantly cutting those people we got so hyped about only a year afterwards?

Its one season. It started out great, then the schedule got extremely tough. Now injuries and wear and tear is starting to show because the lack of depth at certain positions.

So lets have Jason Campbell learn another play book this offseason and all the W Receivers?

I see your point, But Zorn has clearly lost the team. Maybe we need to get rid of some players, But someone needs to go!

[Bushead]

Originally Posted by horse

I see your point, But Zorn has clearly lost the team. Maybe we need to get rid of some players, But someone needs to go!

I think it's more of a players thing. Zorn doesn't have his type of players to runt he WCO. Like someone said earlier: we don't have any tall receivers really. We don't have that 6'4 guy to throw the post to. The offensive line is not built for WCO. The Defensive line never gets any pressure and is not that good against the run.

I think after another off season he'll be able to add some talent and move some things around to suit what he wants to do on offense better. Defense has a great secondary and a little bit of pressure up front would cure alot of their break downs.

[Hail to the Redskins]

Originally Posted by Bushead

He's a rookie head coach!? I don't get anyone on this site. Remember when we changed coaches every 2 years? Remember when we went out and had big splashes YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. Remember constantly cutting those people we got so hyped about only a year afterwards?

Its one season. It started out great, then the schedule got extremely tough. Now injuries and wear and tear is starting to show because the lack of depth at certain positions.

So lets have Jason Campbell learn another play book this offseason and all the W Receivers?

First of all.. no one should mention strength of schedule when your team loses to the Rams AND the Bengals, while BARELY beating the Lions, Seahawks and Browns...

Horrible coaching ALL around offensively ... WR coach - horrible .. Zorn as O-Coord. - Horrible ... Running has been ALL Clinton this year, just look at the other back yards per...

I'm sorry, but Zorn isn't going to be a good coach for a while, and we don't have that time with the age of the talent involved... he'd be good as a QB coach obviously, but not O-Coord or HC!!

[tryfuhl]

ugh.....