BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

[Jamaican'Skin]

Originally Posted by rypper11

Skins are 2-3 (.400) in the playoffs. My point was he isn't much better than the carousel that's been here. If we're starting over why not aim for better than mediocre?

Who did you have in mind?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by rypper11

Skins are 2-3 (.400) in the playoffs. My point was he isn't much better than the carousel that's been here. If we're starting over why not aim for better than mediocre?

I am not thrilled by Shanahan, but he is an experienced Football professional . In all seriousness, even in Gibbs day we didn't win multiple playoff games every year, but we were always competitive and had a shot, and I think that's what Shanahan brings. Plus, we have a much better D for the next 3-5 years at least than Shanahan ever did.

The main thing, is that it is a return to NFL normalcy and a hopeful indication that DS is learning to be a good owner and not as meddlesome.

[44Deezel]

Cerrato will remain with the Redskins as a Snyder consultant - Cerrato will remain with the Redskins as a Snyder consultant | ProFootballTalk.com

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Cerrato will remain with the Redskins as a Snyder consultant - Cerrato will remain with the Redskins as a Snyder consultant | ProFootballTalk.com

http://www.thewarpath.net/641652-post534.html

[rbanerjee23]

I don't like this...this just means Shanahan is going to be gunning for a QB with the first pick and we will have to wait at least 2 more years for a contender. Thoughts?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

I don't like this...this just means Shanahan is going to be gunning for a QB with the first pick and we will have to wait at least 2 more years for a contender. Thoughts?

Shanahan isn't the QB collector that Gruden is. While he may eventually want "his own QB," one has to think he'd be fine with Campbell. QB with our #1 is a distinct possibility but if it happened, it would happen after Jason Campbell was traded for pick(s). Given Campbells improved performance recently, combined with the quality of free agent quarterbacks available, and Campbell could be a hot commodity on the offseason. its not unreasonable to think he could get us a high 2nd or low 1st round pick. in either case, it would make the "sting" of selecting a 1st round QB more palatable. Cowher is rumored to want Campbell to be his QB in Carolina. Arizona is also a possible trade destination (assuming we swapped him for Leinhart, which is very likely if we had Shanny).

As of this moment, i'd break the odds down this way on who our starting QB will be in 2010:

Jason Campbell - 50%
Matt Leinhart - 40%
Rookie QB or Veteran QB while our 1st round QB is groomed - 10%

One other thing to keep in mind is that Mike Shanahan (who, make no mistake, would be running the show here - Allen would just deal with the details, paperwork, etc.) has always been shrewd when it comes to trades. He values his draft picks and will drive a hard bargain, whereas Snyderatto was always more than willing to throw in a little extra to "sweeten the pot" and get a deal done. I don't expect us to get "the short end of the stick" in trades going forward.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Shanahan isn't the QB collector that Gruden is. While he may eventually want "his own QB," one has to think he'd be fine with Campbell. QB with our #1 is a distinct possibility but if it happened, it would happen after Jason Campbell was traded for pick(s). Given Campbells improved performance recently, combined with the quality of free agent quarterbacks available, and Campbell could be a hot commodity on the offseason. its not unreasonable to think he could get us a high 2nd or low 1st round pick. in either case, it would make the "sting" of selecting a 1st round QB more palatable. Cowher is rumored to want Campbell to be his QB in Carolina. Arizona is also a possible trade destination (assuming we swapped him for Leinhart, which is very likely if we had Shanny).

As of this moment, i'd break the odds down this way on who our starting QB will be in 2010:

Jason Campbell - 50%
Matt Leinhart - 40%
Rookie QB or Veteran QB while our 1st round QB is groomed - 10%

One other thing to keep in mind is that Mike Shanahan (who, make no mistake, would be running the show here - Allen would just deal with the details, paperwork, etc.) has always been shrewd when it comes to trades. He values his draft picks and will drive a hard bargain, whereas Snyderatto was always more than willing to throw in a little extra to "sweeten the pot" and get a deal done. I don't expect us to get "the short end of the stick" in trades going forward.

Where do you get your information? TMZ, Star Mag., People, US Weekly...

Can you sit at night after pulling so much stuff out of your ass all day?

[Defensewins]

After reading a few articles yesterday about this process, its looking more and more like Shanahan was asked what it would take to get him hired and he said get rid of Vinny.

Many of the other GM's that saw and talked to Vinny at the NFL meetings late last week said Vinny was not aware of any changes. He was scouting and preparing for the draft. That does not sound like a guy getting ready to quit.
The fact that he went to the meetings is a sign that he was out of the loop.
Plus throw his childish disrespectful slap at Zorn during his exit speech and that is a sign of a guy that is not happy about this move.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I actually read it somewhere on this site. it was just a rumor and I indicated it was a rumor.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I actually read it somewhere on this site. it was just a rumor and I indicated it was a rumor.

Carolina would have to pay 6 million to get rid of Fox and their GM. It seems very doubtful that they will do this. And I think the Cowher to Carolina buzz has been pretty quiet lately.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Carolina would have to pay 6 million to get rid of Fox and their GM. It seems very doubtful that they will do this. And I think the Cowher to Carolina buzz has been pretty quiet lately.

As I live in Raleigh and 90% of everyone i know is a panthers fan, i know everyone's hoping he comes to Carolina. As long as he doesn't go to Dallass, i'm happy.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

As I live in Raleigh and 90% of everyone i know is a panthers fan, i know everyone's hoping he comes to Carolina. As long as he doesn't go to Dallass, i'm happy.

So do you think they realistic going to get rid of Fox given the buyout situation? Just curious.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So do you think they realistic going to get rid of Fox given the buyout situation? Just curious.

I honestly don't know enough about the "frugality" of the Panthers ownership, but in talking to my friends (who are honestly not "savvy" enough to get into the financial aspect of front office decisions), they feel Fox will be fired and they HOPE Cowher's the next guy. I don't think they feel Cowher to Carolina is about as much of a given as we feel Shanahan to Washington is - but from my point of view, i've always felt Cowher would end up in Carolina (despite how much i wish he'd be our next coach.). I've got no inside information, its just an opinion/gut feeling. I talk to my friends and i've read the same stuff online that you probably have.

At this point, i think Shanahan's coming here, Cowher's going to Carolina, and Gruden (despite the current contract situation) is going to Dallas. Watch me be wrong on all 3 counts.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

BTW, JLC is going to be on ESPN980 within the next hour or so. Should be very interesting to see what his sources are telling him now.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

BTW, JLC is going to be on ESPN980 within the next hour or so. Should be very interesting to see what his sources are telling him now.

yeah waiting on this