Parcells and T.O

5RINGS · 03-31-2006, 12:50 PM

Malcolm,

whats with the "banned" and the 'defector' stuff?

5RINGS · 03-31-2006, 12:53 PM

Malcolm remember that last year Dallas' running game had to deal with 8 man fronts cause there was no receiver that needed to be doubled near the LOS. That changes with TO.

Now we are looking at a more balanced offense. With a Game Changing home run hitter at WR.

warriorzpath · 03-31-2006, 01:26 PM

I'm reading through these posts and most focus on TO's behavior. While this should be the most important concern for the Cowboys, I personally don't assume that Owens will be as good as he was with his first year with the eagles. Going to the eagles, he was going from a west coast offense to another west coast offense. Going to the cowboys, he is coming from a west coast offense to a Parcells-led offense (or whoever is in charge of that offense, but I know it aint a west coast philosophy). I believe that he won't meet the expectations that everyone holds for him (on the field), considering it will be a more difficult transition in changing offensive schemes. In my opinion, it is hard for anyone to accept change and learn new things (esp. when you've been used to one way for your whole career), but considering his behavior in reacting to adversity or his sensitivity to feeling slighted by others - it will be more difficult for him compared to others to accept his new and very different surroundings and system.

Just my opinion and maybe wishful thinking, but I think my reasoning has some real logic to it.

PWNED · 03-31-2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Malcolm remember that last year Dallas' running game had to deal with 8 man fronts cause there was no receiver that needed to be doubled near the LOS. That changes with TO.

Now we are looking at a more balanced offense. With a Game Changing home run hitter at WR.

i would just remember that you have a QB thats not even in mcnabbs LEAGUE no doubt the attack will be more balanced, but i still only feel an 8-8 or 9-7 finish again

5RINGS · 03-31-2006, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PWNED

i would just remember that you have a QB thats not even in mcnabbs LEAGUE no doubt the attack will be more balanced, but i still only feel an 8-8 or 9-7 finish again

I can't argue that Bledsoe is the QB that McNabb is. But Bledsoe does have a big arm. The question is will he be throwing while getting sacked or throwing from his Front Foot?

Philly did not run the ball. You all saw that. If McNabb had an offense that had a legitimate run threat the Eagles would have been much better off.

As to TO changing offensive schemes, well experts will bore you to tears in any sports bar about how the West Coast Offense is truly the 'Walsh/Seifert' version, or how all teams run some variant of it or blah blah blah.

Really, I think that TO could play in a Big 10 - now 12 - offence (three yards and a cloud of dust) and make an impact.

warriorzpath · 03-31-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Really, I think that TO could play in a Big 10 - now 12 - offence (three yards and a cloud of dust) and make an impact.

Yeah, he'll still make an impact, but is he going to reach everyone's expectations of playing like he did with the eagles (1st year), I wouldn't think so. He has a lot of learning to do and at this stage of his career and his behavioral issues, I don't think he is very conducive to learning new things.

And what might happen if the media says that he is good but not as good as with Philly and SF - that might affect him even more. I tend to go back to measuring success in relation to expectations.

5RINGS · 03-31-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I tend to go back to measuring success in relation to expectations.

There is no way anyone could measure up to the expectations of Dallas fans. We have more football ignorant fans than any team except for the Raiders.

GTripp0012 · 03-31-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

There is no way anyone could measure up to the expectations of Dallas fans. We have more football ignorant fans than any team except for the Raiders.

There's always the Eagles.

PWNED · 03-31-2006, 02:25 PM

theyre just douchebags, even thought hey do have SOMe football knowledge.

warriorzpath · 03-31-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

There is no way anyone could measure up to the expectations of Dallas fans. We have more football ignorant fans than any team except for the Raiders.

... yeah, and I'm thinking what happens when he feels that pressure of not living up to expectations - how does he behave and how does he handle it - if history is taken into account...well you know the rest of this.

5RINGS · 03-31-2006, 02:32 PM

You might be right. TO might just burst like a cheap condom and infect the entire locker room like he did in Philly. Or in San Fran.

But I think - hope - that the different circumstances in Dallas will prevent that for a year or two.

warriorzpath · 03-31-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

You might be right. TO might just burst like a cheap condom and infect the entire locker room like he did in Philly. Or in San Fran.

But I think - hope - that the different circumstances in Dallas will prevent that for a year or two.

I have to post the saying/signature underneath your post:

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

You are what your record says you are.
Bill Parcells

what does TO's record say about him.

PWNED · 03-31-2006, 02:47 PM

5rings, if theres anyone you REALLY should worry about, its bledsoe. hes notorious for ego and i have this feeling that TO will be on his best behavior this year. if he starts giving it to TO i believe TO will dish it right back

5RINGS · 03-31-2006, 02:49 PM

I'll be honest. The chances of this TO signing turning out differently than when he was with San Fran and Philly are pretty low. There is a huge risk factor.

It would take a level of self examination on TO's part that is difficult for anyone to do.

But if it does go well, it'll be another Jerruh gamble that worked out - Haley, Deion - and he can lord it over the good ol'boys down at the country club.

PWNED · 03-31-2006, 02:51 PM

honestly i think itll take a year before the TO implosion. if drew is a good boy, i think the boys win 8-9 games next year.

03-31-2006, 12:50 PM	#46
5RINGS Closet Redskins Fan Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 495	Re: Parcells and T.O Malcolm, whats with the "banned" and the 'defector' stuff? __________________ I am a complete and unabashed Romosexual.

03-31-2006, 12:53 PM	#47
5RINGS Closet Redskins Fan Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 495	Re: Parcells and T.O Malcolm remember that last year Dallas' running game had to deal with 8 man fronts cause there was no receiver that needed to be doubled near the LOS. That changes with TO. Now we are looking at a more balanced offense. With a Game Changing home run hitter at WR. __________________ I am a complete and unabashed Romosexual.

03-31-2006, 01:26 PM	#48
warriorzpath Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,880	Re: Parcells and T.O I'm reading through these posts and most focus on TO's behavior. While this should be the most important concern for the Cowboys, I personally don't assume that Owens will be as good as he was with his first year with the eagles. Going to the eagles, he was going from a west coast offense to another west coast offense. Going to the cowboys, he is coming from a west coast offense to a Parcells-led offense (or whoever is in charge of that offense, but I know it aint a west coast philosophy). I believe that he won't meet the expectations that everyone holds for him (on the field), considering it will be a more difficult transition in changing offensive schemes. In my opinion, it is hard for anyone to accept change and learn new things (esp. when you've been used to one way for your whole career), but considering his behavior in reacting to adversity or his sensitivity to feeling slighted by others - it will be more difficult for him compared to others to accept his new and very different surroundings and system. Just my opinion and maybe wishful thinking, but I think my reasoning has some real logic to it.

03-31-2006, 02:25 PM	#54
PWNED The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ZOMGZZZ!!111 Age: 34 Posts: 1,160	Re: Parcells and T.O theyre just douchebags, even thought hey do have SOMe football knowledge. __________________ 143 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal.

03-31-2006, 02:32 PM	#56
5RINGS Closet Redskins Fan Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 495	Re: Parcells and T.O You might be right. TO might just burst like a cheap condom and infect the entire locker room like he did in Philly. Or in San Fran. But I think - hope - that the different circumstances in Dallas will prevent that for a year or two. __________________ I am a complete and unabashed Romosexual.

03-31-2006, 02:47 PM	#58
PWNED The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ZOMGZZZ!!111 Age: 34 Posts: 1,160	Re: Parcells and T.O 5rings, if theres anyone you REALLY should worry about, its bledsoe. hes notorious for ego and i have this feeling that TO will be on his best behavior this year. if he starts giving it to TO i believe TO will dish it right back __________________ 143 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal.

03-31-2006, 02:49 PM	#59
5RINGS Closet Redskins Fan Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 495	Re: Parcells and T.O I'll be honest. The chances of this TO signing turning out differently than when he was with San Fran and Philly are pretty low. There is a huge risk factor. It would take a level of self examination on TO's part that is difficult for anyone to do. But if it does go well, it'll be another Jerruh gamble that worked out - Haley, Deion - and he can lord it over the good ol'boys down at the country club. __________________ I am a complete and unabashed Romosexual.

03-31-2006, 02:51 PM	#60
PWNED The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ZOMGZZZ!!111 Age: 34 Posts: 1,160	Re: Parcells and T.O honestly i think itll take a year before the TO implosion. if drew is a good boy, i think the boys win 8-9 games next year. __________________ 143 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal.

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