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View Poll Results: Rocky McIntosh: Grade the selection
A 35 22.01%
B 87 54.72%
C 33 20.75%
D 2 1.26%
F 2 1.26%
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Old 05-02-2006, 05:38 AM   #1
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Re: Grade Rocky McIntosh

I don't know if we gave up to much or not. I am sure that everyone listened to Gibbs int re: the draft (on redskins.com). He did not want any of the other guys available at the # 53 slot. He (and Greg) had thoroughly researched the subject and both agreed that Rocky is the man! and the guy they could not afford to risk missing. a difference maker. TOTALLY sound philosophy. I am confident they know what they are doing. Time will tell if they are correct.
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Old 05-02-2006, 10:52 AM   #2
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Re: Grade Rocky McIntosh

The best people to ask if they think McIntosh is worth it are the 'Canes fans that attend/watch every game and are intimately familiar with Rocky's playmaking ability. Versus VA Tech, I thought he was pretty decent but I only have two games that I can call upon to really form an opinion.

As far as Jimmy Williams goes, I for one one am glad we didn't draft him. He has tremendous athletic ability but I can't stand his attitude.
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Old 05-02-2006, 11:19 AM   #3
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Re: Grade Rocky McIntosh

I gave the selection a B. I like the pickup, basically I like anyone from The U. They all seem to come into the pro's well prepared and make impacts on the teams they are drafted too. I think McIntosh was a great selection for us in terms of need and getting a quality player.

I still dont understand the trade that we made to gain the selection. It just dosent seem like we got the right value in return for that perticular pick.

However, we did get a guy that I think the staff wanted, and I trust that they can evaluate the talent better than I can. I didnt see a whole lot of College ball last year.
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:21 PM   #4
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Re: Grade Rocky McIntosh

Backrow posted this earlier in this thread about what we really gave up for him:


Pick #35 550 points
Pick #53 370 points

That is a difference of 180 points

If you value next year's second as a third at the same position you are picking this year that is pick #85 which equals 165 points

This year's 6th (189) is 16.8 points

We gave up a total of 551.8 draft value points for a pick worth 550 draft value points. That is about as even as you can get and we got a player at a need position for us that can start right away.
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:55 PM   #5
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Re: Grade Rocky McIntosh

Still man its 3 picks to move a few spots that type of moves giving up next year high pics it's killing you it all ready killed you this draft only 1 player in the first day and with huge health concerns granted he fills a need but like last year you sold the farm for him hope his worth it.
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Old 05-02-2006, 02:09 PM   #6
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Re: Grade Rocky McIntosh

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Still man its 3 picks to move a few spots that type of moves giving up next year high pics it's killing you it all ready killed you this draft only 1 player in the first day and with huge health concerns granted he fills a need but like last year you sold the farm for him hope his worth it.
The redskins gave up 2 draft choices to move up: (1) next year's 2nd and (2) 6th rounder this year.
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:04 PM   #7
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The redskins gave up 2 draft choices to move up: (1) next year's 2nd and (2) 6th rounder this year.
I'm Sorry they gave 3 because you have to ad the 2nd they allready had.

Redskins Get

2nd round, No. 35: Roger McIntosh, LB, Miami (Fla.)

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2nd round, No. 53 (traded)

6th round, No. 189 (traded)

2nd round, 2007 draft
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:43 PM   #8
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Re: Grade Rocky McIntosh

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I'm Sorry they gave 3 because you have to ad the 2nd they allready had.

Redskins Get

2nd round, No. 35: Roger McIntosh, LB, Miami (Fla.)

Jets Get
2nd round, No. 53 (traded)

6th round, No. 189 (traded)

2nd round, 2007 draft
math: 3 picks (given) - 1 pick (received) = 2 picks lost.
we gave up 2 picks and used 1, which we would have used anyways if there was no trade.
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:55 PM   #9
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math: 3 picks (given) - 1 pick (received) = 2 picks lost.
we gave up 2 picks and used 1.
God dam really.. let me explain you gave 3 picks and used 1 that you received if you substract the 1 you recevied you don't use anything.


let me explains in terms you might understand ok...... If I have a Babe Ruth rookie card and you want it and I say you need to give me your Hank Aaron, Mickey Mantle and Pete Rose cards for me to give you my Babe Ruth 1. How many card you need to give me?...................... 3 yeahhhhhh and how many card I'm going to give you? 1 ok thats math.
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Old 05-02-2006, 03:34 PM   #10
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Still man its 3 picks to move a few spots that type of moves giving up next year high pics it's killing you it all ready killed you this draft only 1 player in the first day and with huge health concerns granted he fills a need but like last year you sold the farm for him hope his worth it.
Again... we gave up a total of 551.8 draft value points for a pick worth 550 draft value points.

How is that "selling the farm"??
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Re: Grade Rocky McIntosh

ummm...because I heard someone on a radio/tv show say it?
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Old 05-02-2006, 03:43 PM   #12
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Re: Grade Rocky McIntosh

The way I see it our 1st round pick was Jason Campbell, but unlike all the other 1st rounders selected Saturday he's already been with his team for a year. And our 3rd rounder was Brandon Lloyd, but unlike all the other 3rd rounders selected this weekend he's already a proven NFL receiver.

The offseason window to make moves does not begin on the first day of the draft and end on the second.
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Old 05-02-2006, 03:48 PM   #13
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Re: Grade Rocky McIntosh

Anybody have a good resource for finding out how many current players we have on our roster that were drafted by us or any other team in rounds 1 - 3?
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:37 PM   #14
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Re: Grade Rocky McIntosh

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The way I see it our 1st round pick was Jason Campbell, but unlike all the other 1st rounders selected Saturday he's already been with his team for a year. And our 3rd rounder was Brandon Lloyd, but unlike all the other 3rd rounders selected this weekend he's already a proven NFL receiver.

The offseason window to make moves does not begin on the first day of the draft and end on the second.
Exactly! Also, when we traded a sixth rounder (Ramsey pick up I think) I don't think we gave up that much. I'm sure that the plan is to pick up someone with at least second round talent in free agency next year to make up for the 2nd round loss.

It was more important to get a guy we need then it was to wait for the best pick available that we may not need. The way I see it, our roster is stacked pretty good right now. I think our biggest complaint is that we don't have great depth on OL and Corner. I can live with that.
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:35 PM   #15
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Again... we gave up a total of 551.8 draft value points for a pick worth 550 draft value points.

How is that "selling the farm"??
it's not about the points it about the players you can get with your pics

2 second round pics those are player that should start start right away in your team and be the backbone of your team for the next 8

see at this year draft you only had 1 first day pick ..... 1 that's just adding a real first day starter 2 your team the rest are develping players thats a poor draft and next year at this moment you only have 2.
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