Bigger disappointment?

[EXoffender]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Missing Springs is HUGE.

One guy down?! That shouldn't be huge if you're putting together a winning team.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by EXoffender

One guy down?! That shouldn't be huge if you're putting together a winning team.

We saw it last year when Griffin went down. The run D was awful.

Yes, one guy can make that much of a difference. He's that important.

Springs and Griffin are the two guys that hold this entire D together.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

We saw it last year when Griffin went down. The run D was awful.

Yes, one guy can make that much of a difference. He's that important.

Springs and Griffin are the two guys that hold this entire D together.

I totally agree.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by EXoffender

One guy down?! That shouldn't be huge if you're putting together a winning team.

yeah, i mean, there'd be NO drop off if portis or moss, or, ummm... jon jansen went down :P

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

The defense was the bigger disappointment. I expected the defense to be solid and I think we in D.C. have been a little spoiled by our D. They played okay, not spectacular, just okay. They were pretty good against the run (allowing C.T. to average less than 3 ypc), but they allowed far too many big plays on 3rd down or made dumb penalties. That said, they allowed about 300 yards and 19 points ... above average, but not Redskins D.

I didn't expect much out of the offense and I didn't see much out of them either. They moved the ball quite well, that is until they got into the red zone 4 times and went 1(TD)-3(FG). They've got far too much talent to score just 16 points at home, on Monday night, against the Vikings defense.

Overall, the offense played a worse game, but I expected the defense to be good and the offense to be just average. So, I'm more disappointed in the defense.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

The bottom line is neither unit made plays when they needed to. The defense needed to make plays on 3rd downs and they didn't. The offense needed to actually score touchdowns and, save 1, they didn't.

[Hog1]

I watched the game like all the Redskin faithful. I anticipated and planned for the game for weeks. I was disappointed. I have read all the why's and how's detailing what injury, penalty, limp ass kicker are the cause for the loss. Although it was a close game by the scoreboard, I am just ...........................Damn disapponted. It was not that close. I will survive............but, I personally do not remember a game when we could NOT step up, anywhere. The Vikes did what they had to do when they had to do it. That is the mark of championship team. We did not. I firmly believe we have a more talented team, staff, etc. We did not play like it, and if one player injured, or a couple of penalties gone the wrong way=loss........................be a long season. As somebody stated earlier, we got dominated. Our killer O-line, D-line, etc got bitched.........regularly. To many people say, we are just trying to buy a SB with overpriced free agents. last night, we proved them right. I Felt like I was watching Houston. maybe it will light a fire in their bellies for the Cowboys. If not..........I don't want to think about it-Damn disappointing

[EXoffender]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I watched the game like all the Redskin faithful. I anticipated and planned for the game for weeks. I was disappointed. I have read all the why's and how's detailing what injury, penalty, limp ass kicker are the cause for the loss. Although it was a close game by the scoreboard, I am just ...........................Damn disapponted. It was not that close. I will survive............but, I personally do not remember a game when we could NOT step up, anywhere. The Vikes did what they had to do when they had to do it. That is the mark of championship team. We did not. I firmly believe we have a more talented team, staff, etc. We did not play like it, and if one player injured, or a couple of penalties gone the wrong way=loss........................be a long season. As somebody stated earlier, we got dominated. Our killer O-line, D-line, etc got bitched.........regularly. To many people say, we are just trying to buy a SB with overpriced free agents. last night, we proved them right. I Felt like I was watching Houston. maybe it will light a fire in their bellies for the Cowboys. If not..........I don't want to think about it-Damn disappointing

Let's not get too down. We can lose a conference game at home. Once Gibbs get it goin'...ain't no stopping us.

[Hog1]

[quote=EXoffender;214301]Let's not get too down. We can lose a conference game at home. Once Gibbs get it goin'...ain't no stopping us.

You right EX

[EXoffender]

To many new guys on both sides of the ball. Players have to get aquainted with each other before anyone will start making make plays. That's why Ryan Clark was (and Demetric Evans is) so valuable to us. In the long term, Archuleta may have better stats than Clark but, how many games do we have to lose before everyone is on the same page? It could be too late.

[DaveyFoSho]

Why couldnt we get a call when our guy got drillllllled from behind after a ball sailed way over his head.....Taylor got that flag when he hit a receiver still trying to make a play on the ball!!! and that was not helmet first he deffinately hit him with his shoulder!! Im not making any excuses but those two plays, the one call and the one blown call, screwed us!

[onlydarksets]

I don't think anyone would say the offense looked like the Chiefs of the past few years, but they did put up some points. I thought the defense was going to be able to keep the Vikes from moving the ball, but, obviously, that wasn't the case. I wonder if the D was a little shell-shocked on that opening drive?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

I don't think anyone would say the offense looked like the Chiefs of the past few years, but they did put up some points. I thought the defense was going to be able to keep the Vikes from moving the ball, but, obviously, that wasn't the case. I wonder if the D was a little shell-shocked on that opening drive?

I honestly think that Springs' absence meant the difference in the game. I think Springs is one of the most important players to the defense, second only to Griffin.

[hail_2_da_skins]

That was a pathetic display of defense and special teams. Surprisingly, the offensive was more effective than expected but the defense could not stop the Vikings on third down or put pressure on Brad Johnson. If they do not put pressure on Drew Bledsoe, the Cowboys will eat them alive. The two bright spots was the kickoff and punt return teams but the coverage was horrible and needs to be addressed immediately. The offense moved well, it just needs to convert those drives into more touchdowns. I'm surprised they didn't use T.J. Duckett in goalline situations.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

That was a pathetic display of defense and special teams. Surprisingly, the offensive was more effective than expected but the defense could not stop the Vikings on third down or put pressure on Brad Johnson. If they do not put pressure on Drew Bledsoe, the Cowboys will eat them alive. The two bright spots was the kickoff and punt return teams but the coverage was horrible and needs to be addressed immediately. The offense moved well, it just needs to convert those drives into more touchdowns. I'm surprised they didn't use T.J. Duckett in goalline situations.

I'm not so sure the defense was so piss poor and the offense was that good. I think they both did some good things and they both did some bad things.

Third down conversions were bad on both sides of the ball. The defense allowed the Vikings to convert 52% of 3rd downs. Our offense, however, converted just 30% of third downs.

Both sides did okay with regard to rushing. The offense averaged 4.1 yards per carry. The defense allowed just 2.5 yards per carry and only 86 total rushing yards.

Both sides were sub-par in the passing game. The defense allowed 223 yards and the offense only put up 163 yards.

The stats are pretty even on both sides. My eyes told me that both sides did okay; a decent job, but not enough to get it done.

Granted, I would have expected the defense to look better, but objectively speaking it did just as well as the offense in my mind.